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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    No it doesn't make sense IF we insist our physical resurrected body will become a spiritual body? What does make sense and is the point Paul consistently makes in 1Cor 15 is that death of our body does not mean death of our spirit. When our body dies, our spirit, through the Holy Spirit within...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    The purpose for a physical resurrection to immortality and incorruption is because we must be complete again to live throughout eternity on the new earth. Human bodies are destined to die. When the spirit in believers ascends to heaven after our mortal body dies, we are without flesh & bones...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Yes, I do believe there are spirits in the world. The angels of God are spirits, sent from God to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation. People sometimes reference these spirits as "Guardian Angels". Hebrews 1:13 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Why does Paul say it is raised a spiritual body since the body raised is the body sown natural, but changed from mortal to immortal & corruptible to incorruptible? A spiritual body has not flesh & bones, but the body that shall be raised immortal & incorruptible will be flesh and bones. And...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    The times of restitution Peter spoke of had begun, and will not be complete until the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete when the last Gentile to be saved enters into the Kingdom by grace through faith. The restitution or restoration of all things began when Christ came with His...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    What exactly are you sticking with? Quoting this passage tells me nothing of what you believe it means???
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Jeremiah is talking about them returning to their land after seventy years of captivity. This prophesy was fulfilled when Jerusalem was restored and the second Temple that had been destroyed was rebuilt.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    The times of restitution began with Christ coming to earth a man, giving His life for sin, and resurrecting from the dead. As the Gospel is proclaimed unto all the nations of the world, the times of restitution/restoration of all things is commencing. Until the times of restoration is...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Where in this passage does it say or even imply that David will serve as king on this earth?
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, the rest of the story is that Christ will return again to establish His Kingdom on the new earth. The times of restitution began when Christ came to earth a man. The times of restitution of all things shall be complete when the seventh angel begins to sound that time for this earth shall...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Did you not read the words of Daniel and the Acts I referenced for you? Christ is NOW, since He ascended to heaven seated on His throne in heaven. There is NOT a single verse found in Scripture telling us Christ or David will sit on an earthly throne ruling and reigning over His people. Now...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    It's not the written words that is unbelieved! It is your understanding of these words written that is not believed.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    So too Israel of God is a literally all people of faith! They are now literally, in this age of time, spiritually alive in the Kingdom of God, while clothed in physical bodies. The Pharisees also looked for a literal, physical Kingdom they thought would come. So when Christ came in a...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Marks, can you provide the verses that speak of David specifically ruling over Israel that now is a physical nation? There are several verses pointing to the seed of David, which is Christ ruling over His people. Below for example. When you speak of David ruling over an ethnic people, called...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    God will preserve Israel! Not nationally, but spiritually. I've already shown how you have mistaken Israel of God with the nation or ethnic Israel according to race. God NEVER promised to preserve ethnic Jews, called Israel forever. The promises to them nationally were always dependent upon...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I'm not sure what you mean? If by "life giving spirit" you mean the Holy Spirit, I would say no, I don't believe so. The way I've come to understand the creation of man is that man was created with both an outward physical body, and the breath of life, which is the natural spirit in every man...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    What Isaiah says shall come to pass because Christ has raised from the dead. All who physically die IN CHRIST shall awake from physical death also, but that will not be until the last trumpet sounds and the bodies of the physically dead are resurrected either to immortal & incorruptible life or...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Paul did NOT say our natural body will be raised a spiritual body! That makes no sense! We are flesh and bones with a spirit that gives our body life, or we are a living spiritual soul, that has no substance, is as a ghost or the air. The physical body is made to inhabit the earth or natural...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    I said exactly to your posting of vs 44, "it is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body." Paul makes no mention of a bodily resurrection when our body physically dies and is sown in its natural, physical, corrupt, mortal self. When our body is sown after natural physical death, it...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    You are making an assumption that the ethnic people called Israel will be preserved by God forever. But you have failed to prove what you assume because you don't understand Israel preserved by God is NOT an ethnic people comprised of Jews, but is a spiritual people comprised of both Jews of...