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  1. Naomi25

    9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

    Mmm...okay. I would say that there is absolutely no indication in the passage that Jesus is using that phrase as an idiom. In fact I do say it. But you are clearly linking it all to all the feast...and I just do not follow your reasoning's on that. And in not following your reasoning's, I doubt...
  2. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Hi Wormwood, thanks! It's amazing, isn't it, how much language in Revelation you find in the OT? So much of the imagery is taken from the OT and makes it much easier to understand, especially when you look at it as a series of visions that repeat, only from different perspectives (from heaven...
  3. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Hi LambofChrist. Your reply was simply to long to reply to, sorry, although I appreciate your response to my post! I can see that you are passionate about your view and clearly believe that is what scripture is saying, but I cannot see it myself, sorry. So, if I may, I'll agree to disagree!
  4. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Hi Guestman! Thanks for replying. You said: "I will chime in, taking on one subtopic at a time, starting with the "first one" on the "1000 years" in the Bible book of Revelation. The question of whether or not it is literal is a valid one. For example, in Koine Greek, the language that...
  5. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Um. Can I just clarify? Are you saying that Jesus Christ will not physically return?
  6. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    Hi Theophilus, thanks for your reply! So many replies while I slept! I'm not sure how I'll have time to get to them all! You said: "No, we do exactly what you do, consider the kind of writing so we can tell whether the author intended to statement to be literal. Poetry often contains...
  7. Naomi25

    9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

    Yes...very nice. But why does JESUS say HE doesn't know? That ONLY the Father knows? You need to address that....as that was my question.
  8. Naomi25

    9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

    Someone may have already pointed this out...sorry, didn't have time to wade through 5 pages. But I believe your thought here might be slightly in error. If believers can know when Christ returns...then why didn't Christ know...? “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the...
  9. Naomi25

    I'd like to have a calm, rational conversation about End Times...anyone?

    So...this might be asking too much. I have noticed that for some reason, nothing seems to send people off the deep end like discussing the end times. People just get mad. If I disagree with their eschatology, then I must be the devil! So...here's where I am. I grew up in a Christian house where...
  10. Naomi25

    Homosexuality

    Sure...that makes sense. It's okay to be judgemental to the judgemental people, even though you preach it's not okay to be judgemental. "Do as I say people, not as I do". If all sinners ran from God, we'd all be in trouble. The idea is to run TO God. I just don't get how people find this a...
  11. Naomi25

    Homosexuality

    Was that said with good intentions towards me, or bad?
  12. Naomi25

    Liberals (anti-Christian folk) are illogical and dangerous

    Um. I'm only "still on" about homosexuality because that seemed to be the drum you kept banging....you know, with examples about your friend? But...see...watch me drop it. Um...my comment were on the Burkini's. I briefly mentioned burkas, because I can see why countries are concerned with them...
  13. Naomi25

    abolishing Hell? ("all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire...")

    Okay. Wow. I give up. Clearly what I am saying is not being understood...either because of poor explanation on my part, or misunderstanding me on yours....because pretty much everything in this post that you say that I believe...I don't. You have managed to completely miss my points on all...
  14. Naomi25

    Liberals (anti-Christian folk) are illogical and dangerous

    I feel I should clarify something here....you seem intent on using your lesbian friend as an example of your belief towards homosexuals, and your acceptance of them. And I suddenly found myself wondering if you thought my behaviour to her, should I meet her, would be similar to those horrid...
  15. Naomi25

    Eschatologioal Footing

    It seems to me that this topic is not intended as a discussion thread on the topic. It's just your own, personal soap box. So, there's little point to reading on...I've read plenty on the topic, and don't need to again. See ya....
  16. Naomi25

    Liberals (anti-Christian folk) are illogical and dangerous

    Yeah...you are missing my point! I said: "Eye colour cannot be changed, but it doesn't require to be acted upon, either. Sexual orientation may be from birth, but so is human pride. It's not a sin to God until people choose it before Him, repeatedly. My point was that comparing being born a...
  17. Naomi25

    abolishing Hell? ("all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire...")

    It's not an unfamiliar sentiment. We have jails for people who 'break the law'. We let 'em out because we hope that they will rehabilitate, don't we? I mean, we truly hope these people recognise that what they did was unacceptable, and stop it. But we also know that many of them make the decided...
  18. Naomi25

    Liberals (anti-Christian folk) are illogical and dangerous

    This was not my point, and you didn't really answer my question. I have no problem accepting that they hold their faith as true. And I have no problem talking to them with that firmly in view. It shouldn't affect how we treat them or relate to them. My point was: those people shouting "Allah...
  19. Naomi25

    so few are real Christians

    While I believe it's true, you can tell a person by their fruits, I think this must be a careful area. As you said, Christians aren't perfect, and sadly that non-perfection can often mean saying or doing things that you regret instantly, or later once you've had time think, or be rebuked by the...
  20. Naomi25

    abolishing Hell? ("all liars will have their part in the Lake of Fire...")

    I think you're missing my point. I see you saying that you believe I'm saying "all those nasty sinners deserve hell". Theologically true, but not biblically imperative. The gospel means that even "the worst of us" (in Paul's language) can find forgiveness and grace. And I pray that everyone...