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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    (LDS person writing here) LDS aren't sola scriptura, so taking a sola scriptura approach doesn't make for a strong stance. I'll grab you the references later tonight (sorry, got work has me swamped until then).
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    The two basic camps are about the Last Supper are: 1) It is literally the flesh and blood of Christ 2) It is symbol for remembering not super natural in any way. There are possible subtle variations are those too. For example Lutherans don't believe that the bread and drink turn literally into...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I did answer the first 3 dozen questions from her, always to have the response be prosylitizing, even after I repeatedly said "no thank you". Now I'm really tired of opening opening up just to be met with more prosylitizing. It feels like every time I open the front door to be friendly, a...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Every conversation I have with Mary, her only motivation seems to be prosylitizing (yes, that is a salesman when a person doesn't stop after someone says "no thank you"). I have no interest in prosylitizing (giving or receiving). Rather, I talk on here simply to have a respectful conversation...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, you are coming off as a salesman. I don't want to deal with salesmen. If you have some other motivation than to try to make me Catholic, please let me know.
  6. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Mary, what is your motivation for asking? If you motivation is proselytizing (which I suspect), I am not going to answer because that's just going to go badly with 1) you being frustrated that I reject Catholicism and 2) me being frustrated with Catholic salesman. I'd rather skip that whole...
  7. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    Again, what is your motivation here-- why are you asking? Are you asking out of seeing/me love? Or is this just staging for another proselytizing attempt? I'm not Catholic. I'm not going to be Catholic ever. You pushing that only backfires.
  8. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I have observed that "traditional Catholic" views can vary widely. I would also rather here someone directly tell me their beliefs rather than assuming they fit some mold.
  9. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    More than that. I'm also saying that I see you, value your opinion, want to get my facts straight as to what it is, and I honestly care what you think/believe. And again, I do love and care. Are you asking out of seeing/me love? Or is this just staging for another proselytizing attempt? I'm...
  10. J

    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    In your reading of scripture. I find scripture strongly advocates that exact love of ALL men. That's not the definition of respect. I'm talking about loving, seeing them, to act with humility towards, and showing charity them-- see Corin 13. That is not my stance at all. You're arguing...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    @Marymog , this is a place where you taking the time to understand and respect another person's view (even if you don't find it to be True) will go a LONG way to making a better conversation. Simply lecturing the other person "your view is unscriptural!" will not go anywhere, cause they will...
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    BAPTISM SAVES, FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS"

    I appreciate you taking the time to write this, @GodsGrace, though I was wanting Mary herself to give her own words for her thoughts/actions. I am very familiar with Catholic teachings, having attended various Catholic services for over a decade, many long conversation, reading CCC, etc...
  13. J

    Wine or Juice at Last Supper

    For the bread: sure. It's kind of hard to drink a donut.
  14. J

    Wine or Juice at Last Supper

    It doesn't matter the specifics of what it is: the point is to remember Christ and His sacrifice. Getting lost in the details beverage composition is not the point.
  15. J

    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Mary, I do care about you. I've learned a lot about you during this conversation and others. That you full-heartedly truth the Catholic Church, that you feel strongly about sharing the Gospel, that you are new to the Catholic faith, and just finished attending RCIA. That you feel very...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Show me an example of you listening to a non-Catholic and caring about what it is they believe (not what you want them to believe. This isn't about you or Catholicism.) Again, love is a foundational of part of being a Christian. Sharing an example of you listening to a non-Catholic (which is...
  17. J

    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Show me an example of you listening to a non-Catholic and caring about what it is they believe (not what you want them to believe. This isn't about you or Catholicism.)
  18. J

    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Mary, I honestly see you. I honestly listen to you. I honestly care about what you believe. I honestly love you. Can you say the same for any non-Catholic on here? (Until you answer this question directly, I will not stop asking it. Love is a foundational of part of being a Christian and I'm...
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    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Mary, I honestly see you. I honestly listen to you. I honestly care about what you believe. I honestly love you. Can you say the same for any non-Catholic on here? (Until you answer this question directly, I will not stop asking it. Love is a foundational of part of being a Christian and I'm...
  20. J

    OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

    Mary, I honestly see you. I honestly listen to you. I honestly care about what you believe. I honestly love you. Can you say the same for any non-Catholic on here?