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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Selene, No arguement to be found here, and that's always a good thing.
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    I listen to a local "christian" radio station that carries a wide variety of "christian" teaching. Recently they have shuffled program time slots around, did some deletions and additions, and I laud them for pushing their infomercials to less "prime time" slots. One new show, a call in one...
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    Can you have God as your Father, without the Church as your mother?

    Back about 17 years ago or so, when I first heard the gospel with understanding and received it by faith, I felt moved to write a letter to Pope John Paul, because of an article that I read in a news magazine. I think that it was Newsweek. The article was about a discussion within the ranks of...
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    ARE THERE STILL PROPHETS AND APOSTLES?

    Definitions and limitations upon what God is "allowed" to do. I indulged in the writing of some doggerel last week, but didn't post it anywhere. This seems like as good a place as any: The theologian said to the dogmatist, "Come let us reason how things should go." The dogmatist said to the...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Id be happy to I find the online editor more than a little "user unfriendly" so I'll quote you in green and with an indent. Id be happy to respond to your verses when you begin to respond to mine. Ignoring everything I have written really kinds of makes this discussion pointless. Are we...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    I wouldn't disagree with anything that you've said here, except that it really only applies to those who receive Jesus Christ by faith. Jesus' sacrifice is sufficient to redeem all mankind, even all creation, from the curse and consequence of Adam's sin, as well as that of our own sin, but He...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    I hope that you're really not going to make me give a list to you of all the passages that speak to a restoration of national Israel. It's huge and will take me hours even with bible software. But I'll provide a few, however at this point it seems like an exercise in futility. 22 Thus says the...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Sorry to butt in Selene, but I believe that it would be unjust of me to not make a comment in regard to your statement. I have no idea what Robertson's religion or faith is beyond the fact that he must profess to be Christian. If he is indeed Mormon, then I would have to say that his profession...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    To my knowledge, no one has claimed that the promises of God were uniquely given to the Jews or Hebrews. To the contrary, God has always promised to expand His grace to the gentiles and the Jews are a people chosen by God as an example to those who would examine their history and the scripture...
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    Darkness Falling (not the movie)

    I would agree with you in part. The commandments are light, but all of God's word are light (unto our feet). If a person doesn't know the Lord, the Law, or any law, tends to incite our fleshly nature to rebellion. Even as Christians I believe that we retain that fleshly nature, but in opposition...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Fair enough. I wasn't, strictly speaking, trying to be harsh toward you or toward anyone else. Most of my theology comes from the reading and contemplation of scripture, but also from listening to various teachers on the radio or television. Prior to receiving Christ by faith (that is trusting...
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    Darkness Falling (not the movie)

    I wrote some messages years ago which I posted on this site more recently which I titled 7 messages for our time, 7 indictments against our nation. These were just messages about the spiritual condition of the USA and by extension, of the western world. I felt lead by the Lord to write them, to...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Not exactly true. The tribes of Israel, those who rejected Rehoboam and defected with Jeroboam, were dispersed and never returned to the land. It was Judah and Benjamin that were allowed to return to rebuild Jerusalem and the temple, so that promise was never fulfilled, nor were all the lands...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Perhaps I'm not understanding your posts, but it does seem like you're quick to label people. Are you protestant? I've never belonged to a protestant church myself, only the Roman Catholic church until I was old enough to make my own decisions, and an unaffiliated "Baptist" church, which was...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Fair enough, but this doesn't answer the unfulfilled promises to Abraham's descendants with respect to the lands about modern day Israel, nor the promises of a national restoration with a return to the land which is touched upon repeatedly in the old testament scripture. 30 “Now it shall come to...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Well for one thing, I don't believe in replacement theology and God made a number of promises to the descendants of Abraham, both to that of the son of promise, and to the descendants of Ishmael. Israel has never occupied all the lands promised to Abraham and his descendants and that is just one...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    I beleive that I've heard this point of view before, but it leaves at least some of God's promises unfulfilled and that just doesn't fit the character of God. I beleive now that the Lord was giving me some real insight into His millenial kingdom as I was writing the last post. One of the...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    I think that your understanding is closer to the truth than the traditional pre-trib doctrine, but are you including the millenial reign of Christ in your summation of history? The scripture does discuss an earthly kingdom over which Christ will rule, with an enforced participation in one of the...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    I'm not a mormon, but Robertson's statement seems closer to sound doctrine than denying God's sovereinty over creation, His omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence. If we have to be "deists" to be orthodox, I'd rather be unorthodox and content with knowing God personally. Better to be just...
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    ARE THERE STILL PROPHETS AND APOSTLES?

    I've never seen Jesus with my eyes, but I've "seen" Him with my spirit throughout the writings of the Old testament. Some years ago my wife and I were looking at something in a local Mall jewelry store and got into a conversation with the salesman about our faith. It turned out that the salesman...