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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Yes, Peter did deny the Lord three times, but this was before he'd received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit; Jesus said that the Holy Spirit was with his disciples and would be in them, but first He had to go to the cross and pay the price for our sin (and Peter's sin as well.) You might be...
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    What was Job's sin?

    Elihu didn't accuse Job of anything other than justifying himself rather than God and this is exactly what Job did in the book that we call "Job". If you stand on your own righteousness before God, you'll fall every time.
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    People with dementia have trouble remembering things, suffer hallucinations, have delusions, and become paranoid. They also are generally unable to recognize the symptoms in themselves. Jesus of Nazareth, who was actually Joshua, son of Joseph, of the house of David, of the tribe of Judah, was...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Veteran, do you know what the word "omniscient" means. Omniscience is a quality of God: He knows all things. The scripture also tells us that He knows all things before they happen; He knows the end of a matter from the beginning of it. Satan didn't fall before the fall of man. The scripture...
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    What was Job's sin?

    No, the scripture says that these men stopped answering Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. That's the word of God, not the opinion of men. Elihu said that Job justified himself instead of justifying God, this is true and is what self righteousness is. No man can ever justify himself...
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    What was Job's sin?

    Okay, let's try this again for those who either haven't actually read the book, or simply missed it: 32 So these three men ceased answering Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2 Then the wrath of Elihu, the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, was aroused against Job...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    I'm not sure that I should dignify your question with a response. I've written over 280 posts on this board alone, most of which magnify and praise Jesus Christ as the only begotten son of God. I preach the gospel to everyone who denies what the scripture says, including you. Do you have...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Is the coming false messiah that I and other born again believers are going to be deceived by going to be coming on the clouds of heaven with His saints and Holy Angels? I think that maybe you need a reality check. I know that there are plenty of professing "Christians" that are completely...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Thanks brother, Like most people, I've always had the desire to be "right" rather than wrong. Being "right" implies having a righteousness of our own. Now, I would rather be "correct" than concern myself with being "right," but only for the purposes of instruction so as not to mislead someone...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Veteran, you're arguing against the word, not against me. I was deceived into believing in the pre-tribulation rapture, but the Lord showed me the truth. That's what He does and not just for me, but for all who have received His Spirit. It isn't that we can't be deceived by a liar, but that the...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Good for you. He doesn't actually lead everyone into the wilderness to fast and pray for forty days and forty nights; He did this with Jesus to demonstrate the Lord's faithfulness as compared to Israel's unfaithfulness during their wandering in the wilderness at the time of the exodus. We can...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Yesterday morning, while reading Exodus chapter 14 as part of my fellowship time with the Lord, He showed me something that I'd missed at least a dozen times, and I wanted to mention it for two reasons. First, as an example of how preconceptions and false teachings can blind us to what the...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    I think that the key words in Jesus' statement were "if" and "possible". Jesus also said: 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    I'm not convinced that any true "believers" fall away. Some folks have an intellectual understanding of Christian doctrine that they've received through study or through someone else's teaching, attend church regularly, signed a card, prayed a prayer, etc., but never really saw through to their...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    He did 17 years ago, but you can know Him as well. Just confess to Him your inability to save yourself and entrust your soul to Him, believing that the blood of Christ is sufficient payment for all of your sin. If you believe that He is LORD = God, and that He has risen from the dead, He will...
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    Pre Tribulation rapture of the Church

    Howdy Kaotic, I actually find myself agreeing with you here, and that doesn't seem to happen a lot. The peace and safety thing was also what was being preached by the false prophets of Jeremiah's day, prior to the fall of Jerusalem to Nebuchadnezzar. When people are frightened by what's...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Thank you for a brief, but strong argument.
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Hi Veteran, I appreciate your reasoning, but this is similar to the arguments that Paul and some of the other apostles faced when teaching God's grace. Sinful men will always take the doctrine of grace to extremes and make it an excuse to sin. The Apostle Paul was himself accused to using...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Hogwash! Or possibly even worse, a prevarication! You obviously haven't really given this much thought. If it were necessary to be able to study the word of God to know Him or how to contact Him, no illiterate person could be saved. Or perhaps you believe that someone with serious brain damage...