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  1. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I respect your belief there. But for me, I cannot in good conscious ratify the Athanasian Creed because it oversteps the Bible in it's specification that 3 are 1 through substance. After years of reading, studying, and prayer I simply don't find that in scripture or confirmed through prayer...
  2. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I said ONE God. Three persons, ONE God.
  3. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    Tritheism would be if you could pick one of three Gods or something like that-- which I don't believe that at all. It's literally impossible to honor the Father without honoring the Son, etc. They are ONE.
  4. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    The Father's love is the exact same love the Son has. To follow the Spirit is to follow the Son (cause they're going to tell you the exact same thing). The Father's will is the exact same will the Son has. To honor the Son is to simultaneously honor the Spirit and the Father. The mercy of the...
  5. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    ONE God, three different persons, one via unity. --vs-- ONE God, three different persons, one via a shared substance (the Athanasian Creed view).
  6. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    For me, "substance" doesn't come into play because... frankly I just don't find it in the Bible. Unity comes into play because it's all over the Bible-- God constantly commanding peoples to be one. It's especially highlighted during the Intercessory Prayer, when Christ prays that His follows be...
  7. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    On which point in particular? (Asking so I can address that particularly point in depth, if the answer is the whole thing I can do that too.)
  8. J

    Who has visited New Hampshire?

    Oh Montana mountains!!!! So gorgeous! A versa different type of gorgeous than New England mountains, granted. They both have their appeal.
  9. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    Again: I did. My answer did not support the "substance" claims. And it's not like I can imagine I got a different answer. ONE God in three persons-- yes I can embrace that and do fullheartedly. But thorough study and prayer leads me to the conclusion that they are are ONE through unity, and...
  10. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    Again, I did. My answer did not support the "substance" claims.
  11. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I did. And my answer did not support the "substance" claims.
  12. J

    Personal Revelation

    You have not step foot into a different church, you have not read other materials. You listened to one camp, and blindly parrot what they say back, with zero way of knowing whether or not it's correct. You have not tested anything. I have done all of those things. I rejoice in Truth and...
  13. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I don't find any reference to substance there. I don't find it anywhere in the Bible. Hence my problem with those statements in the Athanasian Creed.
  14. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    I totally agree.
  15. J

    Personal Revelation

    And I have. You have not. Please come back to me when you have.
  16. J

    Personal Revelation

    Again--- @CoreIssue, you urged me to "take the blinders" off. Well, I've read all of Walter Martian's book, seem all those ideas many times, AND actually attended services at these various churches AND actually read/studied their religious materials in full. I"m not a blind sheep to just parrot...
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    Personal Revelation

    @CoreIssue, you urged me to "take the blinders" off. Well, I've read all of Walter Martian's book, seem all those ideas many times, AND actually attended services at these various churches AND actually read/studied their religious materials in full. I"m not a blind sheep to just parrot what...
  18. J

    Personal Revelation

    Oh, you're a Walter Martianite. Figures.
  19. J

    Personal Revelation

    Again, do you care that a lot of these sites are completely full of false info? And again you didn't answer my question: when was the last time you even stepped foot into a Catholic Church or a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints?
  20. J

    Proof of the Trinity. No takers?

    None of those talk about God's substance.