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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Spiritual Israelite noted: <Can you address this?> I visited Israel once, the Jews are God"s chosen people, and I honor them as such. "Jewish" is generally understood to indicate "any/every descendant of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob." The Jews are God's chosen people, and I honor them as such...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Spiritual Israelite noted: <Why are you being so stubborn.> I take revelation by God's prophets seriously. <silly you're being...two witnesses are two individuals> That's me, Silly Billy! "Witness" typically refers to a person, and the context appears to support two individual prophets.
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    IMO: The Bible indicates: "By faith Enoch was taken up, so that he should not see death" (Hebrews 11:8). I interpret that to mean that Enoch did not die. Jesus said, "No one has ascended into heaven..." Enoch did not ascend of his own accord, rather he was taken up before he died. Likewise...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    IMO: o. I would say "sevens" (Hebrew שבים) rather than "weeks," since English "week" = "seven days." This IMO is not indicated here, rather "seven" in this context = "seven years," where "year" = 360 days. o. "People of the coming ruler" are the Romans, who indeed destroyed the temple, leaving...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Marty fox suggested: o They had to die from their mortal bodies to enter heaven. Generally that would be true. However the Bible says: o By faith Enoch was *translated up* so that he should *not see death*... (Hebrews 11:5) o And Elijah [still alive] *went up by a whirlwind...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    There is a temple of God in heaven and a temple of God on earth.
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    Covenantee suggested <A testament is a will> IMO: "Testament" = "a written record of a compact." (Webster's Third New International Dictionary) "Compact" = "an agreement between two or more parties." (Webster's Third New International Dictionary) The Old Testament was a set of rules to be...
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    The taken and the left

    See also 1Corinthians 15:51-52.
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    "By faith Enoch was taken [to heaven, from this life], so that he *did not experience death.* " (Hebrews 11:5) "As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire with horses appeared and separated the two of them, and *Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlpool.*" (2Kings...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    o "Bible" is an English word stemming from Greek βιβλια (Biblia), Latin biblia = "the books." Our current Bible consists of 66 prophetic books, arranged as "Old Testament" and "New Testament." o A testament is an agreement between two parties that can never be rescinded by either party. o...
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    IMO: 1. "Weeks" is a misleading translation. The Hebrew word is שבוע = the number "seven." 2. In this context it seems to me that "seven" = 7 years, where "year" = 360 days. 3. "Seventy sevens" does not necessarily equate to seventy continuous sevens, rather that is an assumption. 4. For...
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    The taken and the left

    IMO: "Taken and left" (Matthew 24:49-41, Luke 17:34-36) refers to the return of Jesus to remove believers from the judgments that will befall the land. This is called the "rapture," i.e. "snatching" believers from the land into the sky, to spare them from the catastrophic judgments about to...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Marty fox noted: <to die once> Enoch and Elijah will both die once, as noted in Revelation 11:7.
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    Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

    IMO: o The Catholic Church is one of many Christian denominations, it does not speak for Christianity. o I have read the Quran. It mentions Jesus around 25 times as I recall. The Muslims consider Jesus a prophet, but not the Son of God.
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    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    "Seventy sevens" (שבעים שבעים, Daniel 9:24) culminate in "everlasting righteousness" (Daniel 9:24). Daniel 9:25 indicates that 69 sevens were completed when Jesus was "cut off" (Daniel 9:26, referring to the crucifixion of Jesus, who bore the penalty for our sins, Isaiah 53:11). Hence one...
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    What is the difference between the soul and the spirit?

    Check out Revelation 20:11-14. "As many as *received him*, to *them* he gave the gift of eternal life." (John 3:16). The offer is there. Jesus paid the penalty, God the Father accepted what Jesus did. You snooze, you lose.
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    What is the difference between the soul and the spirit?

    IMO: o "If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the Lake of Fire" (Revelation 20:15) o "Not cast off forever" (Lamentations 3:31) indicates restored communion with God for those *not* in the Lake of Fire. o This final judgment, after the millennial...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    Spiritual Israelite noted: < silly...like we should assume> That's me, silly Billy! I began with IMO = "in my opinion." I said nothing about how anyone else should interpret. There are various opinions on how to interpret Bible prophecy. Four main approaches are: o. Idealist--it's a story...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    IMO: This is apocalyptic literature. It is coded so that "the wise will understand" (Daniel 12:10). In the example you cite, "seven heads" are seven nations that were to arise and provide order in the Middle East. These are: 1. Egypt 2. Assyria 3. Babylon 4. Persia 5. Greece 6. Rome 7...
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    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    IMO: Generally speaking, everyone dies. Enoch and Elijah will die, but it has been deferred to a future time, see Revelation 11:3-13.