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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    What happened right after Noah and Lot were removed? Everyone else all were killed. Jesus said that is what will happen when He comes again (Matthew 24:37-39, Luke 17:26-30). You ignore that and think there will be mortal survivors when He comes. There will not. No, you get it wrong when you...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    I speak the truth from scripture and you call it trolling. You get upset when your false beliefs are thoroughly refuted by scripture and your only response is to accuse of trolling. You are completely incapable of supporting your false doctrine with scripture which is why your posts are full of...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    He is not. Let's move on from him.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    The souls of the dead in Christ. 1 Thessalonian 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    All you pre-tribs can do is lie in response to the truth you are shown from scripture. No believer is appointed to God's wrath (1 Thess 5:9). Never have I said I want to go through God's wrath. Why do you lie? The only wrath that we will be taken off of the earth to avoid is the wrath of Christ...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Feasts of Israel

    Nice job of not addressing the content of my post. I am part of the spiritual Israel of God, as are all Christians who have been made a new creation in Christ. Your childish nonsense can't change that. Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Feasts of Israel

    I am not filled with hate for Israel at all and have never said so and never said anything to indicate as such. Did Satan himself tell you to come here and slander me like this? I'm wondering what your motives are for lying about me. Why are you an evil person who lies about people? You need to...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    So, I guess agreeing to disagree is not something you're interested in. You don't need to tell me that Luke 21:25-28 refers to the future when I have said the same many times. The times of the Gentiles during which Jerusalem had no temple and has been trampled on by Gentiles followed what...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I don't see how that answers my question. How do you conclude that the 7 vials of wrath are contained in the 7th trumpet? It does, but it involves the wrath of Christ when He returns, as indicated in passages like 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12. So, unless the vials of wrath all...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    You're welcome. We will likely always disagree. So be it. No sense in having the exact same argument over and over again. Time to move on from this.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to how you determine when things are chronological and when they are not. I think that is what @claninja is trying to point out. I tend to agree. I would not equate that with you somehow seeing the seals and trumpets being parallel to each other...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    Everyone who has read 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 knows that the resurrected dead in Christ are part of the rapture. It is. When will you ever learn that not all passages that relate to the second coming of Christ contain all of the same details regarding that event? Just because Matthew 24:31 does...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    Dougg, please stop being silly. No one is going to do this because it's completely unnecessary. Everyone knows that the resurrection of the dead in Christ happens first and then the rapture (catching up to meet the Lord in the air) of the resurrected dead in Christ together with those who are...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    What you need to do if you really want to make a convincing argument is tell me your understanding of the timing of Revelation 19:11-21 and Revelation 20:1-3. You're trying to claim that at least part of what is described in Revelation 20:1-3, which includes Christ beginning to reign and Satan...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I can't even be sure what you are intending to say at this point. So, here's a question for clarification. Are you trying to argue that the phrase "And I saw" implies that what is described immediately after it occurs chronologically after what was described immediately before it? That has been...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    The dispensationalist interpretation of Daniel 9:27 that he follows after is quite possibly the worst interpretation of any verse in all of scripture. Attributing a verse about Jesus Christ to an imaginary Antichrist is about as bad as it gets. It's just completely unbelievable.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    I'm very tired of your extreme childishness. You accuse me of diversion while you are diverting attention away from the fact that you didn't answer my question. So, answer it. Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    No, I do not. I've already explained this to you before. You seem to have no ability to remember anything I say to you. I told you that the temple of God referenced there has to be the church because no future physical temple could possibly be the temple of God. And I told you that in the book...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You are incorrect. I fully understand what you're saying. But, for some reason, you are seemingly unwilling to address my point in relation to the beginning of Revelation 20 and the end of Revelation 19. The debate is not whether SOME of Revelation 20 follows SOME of Revelation 19. Do you...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    70th Week and Day of the Lord are separate events.

    Saying that is like saying that Jesus was not crucified. You can't possibly be serious. Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a...