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If you want to be Jesus centered then you should believe what He taught, which is the post-trib rapture. Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will...

It will be an unpleasant surprise for pre-tribbers when they find themselves going through things that they thought they were going to be taken away from.

Right. Their spiritual eyes are closed because of their prideful insistence that they alone, among Christians, understand the truth. It's very ironic for this guy to try to tell others how to have spiritual discernment when he has very little of it himself.

Right. He is just one of many lone wolves on this forum who each think he or she has a monopoly on the truth all to himself or herself. It means nothing to them that very few people, if any, agree with them. They are so full of pride to think that God is only interested in revealing truth to...

LOL. He has refuted your false beliefs using scripture extensively and you know it.

So, you apparently believe that Jesus Himself taught a preterist fairy tale. How nice. Luke 19:41 Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, 42 saying, “If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your...

This is definitely worth considering, but I also think that the text doesn't necessarily have to be referring to the ones who actually physically destroyed the city and the sanctuary. Peter said that the Jews killed Jesus in Acts 2:23 even though it was actually the Roman soldiers who nailed Him...

It is not this simple. Who were the people responsible for the city and the sanctuary being destroyed? The Jews. The Jewish leaders and Jewish unbelievers are the ones who pressured Pontius Pilate to sentence Him to death and the Jews overall rejection of Christ (not all did, but most) was the...

For some reason he doesn't want to tell you this, but he learned everything he believes from this website: Center for Biblical Theology and Eschatology It's referred to as the Center for False Bible Teaching and Hyper-spiritualized Nonsense. Or something like that. I might have the wording a...

How fun. It has to be relevant to some extent because you need to be able to prove that Revelation 20:1-3, at least, follows what is described in Revelation 19:11-21 chronologically. So, your theological interpretation plays a part in this in that sense, at least. Yes, I know that. And I...

Right. The pattern is clear. The prophecy first identifies the Messiah as the prince. After that it refers to the Messiah separately and the prince separately. The reason it doesn't say Messiah the prince each time is because that was unnecessary. The reference to the Messiah would be understand...

Nothing new that you're incapable of refuting it. You're all talk.

Can you explain why you said all of this while at the same time you believe that the seals and trumpets are parallel? It seems like you completely contradicted your own beliefs here, unless I'm missing something. While you don't agree with me that the vials are also parallel to the seals and...

You are the one not making sense of it. You believe in the false pre-trib rapture theory that you cannot support with scripture. Who knows? That sums up your pre-trib rapture belief. Who knows why anyone would believe in it. Nowhere is Christ's return compared to a Jewish wedding, so all of...

Who were the ones that verse is talking about? Everyone of faith that was previously mentioned. That included Enoch. What don't you understand about this? It does not say he never faced death. He was taken away in order to not face death at that time. That does not mean he didn't die at a later...

It's not a hypothetical to see that what he said at the beginning of Revelation 12 is the same as saying "And I saw". How do you interpret Revelation 19:11-21 and Revelation 20:1-6 then? Can you try to not be so vague? Revelation 20 starts with "And I saw". Based on the man-made rule you have...

That's not what He said. He did not say He would take us there. He said He was preparing a place for us so that where He is there we would be also. If He was going to take us to heaven, then why meet Him in the air? Why not just meet Him in heaven instead? It says we will be with Him forever...

Come on. It means the same thing there. As I said, he could have said "And I saw a great sign in heaven..." and it would have meant the exact same thing. You believe that Revelation 19:11-21 describes what happened in 70 AD, right? So, you are saying that you think Jesus did not start to reign...

Why do you think that Jerusalem and its temple buildings were destroyed in 70 AD? Do you think that God had nothing to do with that? What is your understanding of what Jesus said here... Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spoke to them again by parables and said: 2 “The kingdom of heaven is...

That does not mean that every time he saw something it was something in direct sequence chronologically to what he saw previously. Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars...