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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes amen post #760 clearly explains Revelation 2:22-23
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You can't debate with a guy like this with blinders on. He has already decided in his head what he thinks I believe and can't change his view even when I plainly state what I believe. Even after being proven by his own words his pride and stubbornness won't admit that he misrepresented me. When...
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Before I reply to this, why did you just ignore the fact that I posted you saying something that you said you didn’t say? That’s not honest debating and showing you in bad character. I won’t address anything else with you until you acknowledge that you said something you said you didn’t say. I...
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    This is your post below "What is your point in continuing to repeat this! Is it not because you are trying very hard to prove your unbiblical doctrine? It is your doctrine that says 70 AD had to be great tribulation that Christ assigns specifically to His disciples, because if it is not great...
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It's this easy 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. The wrath of God (or the tribulation) will come on these people who some thought...
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No,I never said that the great tribulation that Jesus assigned to the church was the wrath of God. I actually said the opposite I'm repeating it because you're not getting what I'm saying even thought I keep explaining it.
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Of course many knew that it was the wrath of God, how can you not see what I'm saying? It was the wrath of God but a time of tribulation for them. Not the same tribulation as in upon the church but a type tribulation to them You are hung up on a word but not understanding that that word can...
  8. Marty fox

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    So He sits until satan is defeated in Revelation 20:7 then
  9. Marty fox

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    It was the Father that wasn't put under Him 1 Corinthians 15 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    But it was a tribulation in their eyes
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It was spiritual Israelite who mentioned rev 2.22 not me
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm not sure how many times I need to explain this to you but to clarify once and for all this what I believe.... The great tribulation is on the saints from the world. The wrath of God is on the ungodly. There can be many tribulations in life for example my wife is going through breast...
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I think that you meant this for spiritual Israelite not me
  14. Marty fox

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    But the verse you quoated that th eauthority has already been given to Jesus `...the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,......the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, & has given Him authority to execute judgment also...
  15. Marty fox

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    Do you believe that this took place already?
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, and I don't fail to see at God says the church is called to endure great tribulation, while those in unbelief shall receive the wrath of God. Your just stuck on words and not even trying to see what I have explained multiple times. Words can have different meaning
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    We agree here in your second sentence, but the wrath of God is also a tribulation time period for the ones who the wrath falls upon
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Because I've explained a few times now that "the great tribulation" in Revelation 7 is on the church, the same events as Matthew 24:9 and the wrath of God upon apostate Isreal was a great tribulation time period for them. If you can't see that and separate them then I can't explain it anymore