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It is not God's will to damn men. They damn themselves. And, yes, God elects. If you do not like that God then you must reject the God of the Bible. Romans 9:10-21 says, “when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; For the children being not yet born, neither having done...

He knows what he is doing. This is calculated. He has no interest in dialogue - only stirring the pot, misrepresenting Amil, hit and run and creating division.

Check out who the "usward" are who Peter is talking to and you will get the meaning.

I agree. There is no taking of the hand. There is no sense to be honest and upright about what we believe.

You will not let up with your false accusations. Several of us tried to reach out to you to start a new chapter. You didn't even reply. It is you that is always trying to be provocative and offensive. Until you change you can expect to be challenged on this.

Very true. But deliberately trying to misrepresent Amil is provocative and exhausting. Let us see whether he is willing to address this. Maybe we could move forward and explore Scripture.

I think if you kept more engaged and were fairer with your representation of Amil then we would respect you. We all know you know what Amils believe. No one has had that position explained to them more over the years. But you tend to ignore and distort that. Also, if you start a conversation...

Was that too hard to answer?

So, when Jesus rebuked the religious of his day in Matt 23 would you consider that "corrupting talk" that was not "good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear"...? when Jesus rebuked Peter calling him Satan would you consider that "corrupting talk" that...

Why engage then? So, it is not important whether Satan is a real entity or not, whether angels exist and whether demons are true? Scripture is irrelevant.

You are all over the place. You do not seem to know what you believe. That is because you are promoting error. Neither the king of Tyrus, Cain or Adam fulfil the detail described in in Ezekiel 28. Only Satan meets it.

LOL. Adam was not an angel or is he in hell.

Very well put. There is no counter to this. They do not want to see. This is a major deception and heresy denying Satan, demons and angels.

So, the devil, is now Cain? LOL. Talk about delusional! In an earlier post you had him as Adam. LOL. You guys are growing more and more ridiculous by the post. No one takes you and your teacher Tony serious. You are cranks. I showed you "the beginning" in Scripture relates to the formation of...

Was the king of Tyrus real? How was he "perfect" in his ways "from the day" he was "created" till "iniquity was found in" him (Ezekiel 28:15)? What you are attributing to him never happened. To be the symbol, he must fulfil what the sacred text applies to him. But it does not fit. Only Satan...

When did the king of Babylon fall from heaven? Honestly! Talk about spiritualization gone crazy. That is your mindset. Tony Warren has planted those Origenistic seeds in you. Thankfully, this error was quickly banished from the early church. It is only for the gullible. Who else holds the...

Exactly! He is reigning now as king of kings over His enemies. He is coming to destroy them all - angelic and human.

What has that to do with the Op?

Who "blames all atrocities and abominations on God causing them to happen"? This is a straw-man argument. You are obviously devoid of any valid rebuttal. You seem to have no clue about the meaning of Christ's kingship. His sovereign rule allows for evil occurring and even prospering at times...

Not true. This is all noise. You deny the kingship of Christ. You You deny that Jesus currently possesses “All power [Gr. exousia or authority] … in heaven and in earth” (Matthew 28:18). You deny that the Father has given Jesus “authority to execute judgment … because he is the Son of man” (John...