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  1. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    That also comes from the Matthew immersion narrative. Matthew 3:16-17 [16] And having been immersed [having gone through the third plunge] Ι̅Η ascended straightway from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened unto him, and he beheld Pneuma Theou [Ruach Elohim - Gen 1:2] descending as a...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Neither was it my intention to negate or empty the possibility of the physical meaning: I am well aware of that argument. However, the way in which the Son is formed within us has nothing to do with a physical man supposedly called the Morning Star or Day Star forming in our hearts. The Son...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    PS: @Wick Stick Liddell-Scott Lexicon Under Roman Numeral III. of the earth, bear, produce,....... Under Roman Numeral IV. metaph., (metaphorical), generate, engender, produce, “λέγω τὴν χώρην λιμὸν τέξεσθαι” “λέγω τὴν χώρην λιμὸν τέξεσθαι” ~ I say that the parched (hungry) field τέξεσθαι...
  4. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    We disagree on this particular matter, but that's okay, however I'll stick to the interpretation of those who rendered the Hebrew into the LXX here. Isaiah 8:3 OG LXX 3 και προσηλθον προς την προφητιν και εν γαστρι ελαβεν και ετεκεν υιον και ειπεν κυριος μοι καλεσον το ονομα αυτου ταχεως...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I seriously doubt the early RCC would allow any such thing to survive. However, do you suppose Yeshayah the Prophet had physical intercourse with the Prophetess in 8:1-4? I do not believe that to be the case: therefore how did she conceive and bring forth a son? Would it not be by way of the...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    What you say cannot be overstated: it needs to be shouted from the rooftops. The Masoretes indeed resurrected the language; but they resurrected it into their own Pharisaic image. The entire pointing apparatus is essentially a Pharisee commentary embedded within the Hebrew text. They did not...
  7. dak

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    We are in agreement on this and it can be shown more conclusively as follows: Hebrew proper nouns do not tolerate the definite article. In Gen 2:4 we have "the heavens and the earth in the first occurrence in that verse, this phrase with the articles it not using proper nouns, (names), but the...
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    Abraham and the Ram

    And now that, (from my perspective), we have the background information fairly understood: John 8:12-28 12 Therefore again Ι̅Η spoke to them, saying, I am the light of the world: the one following me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of the life. 13 The Pharisees...
  9. dak

    Abraham and the Ram

    I agree very closely with what you have posited. However I would like to add that the ancients, especially including Abraham, Yitzhak, and Yakob, had two understandings: one anthropomorphic, or more accurately zoomorphic, and that one was the Ibex, which was not the Almighty but the Son. That...
  10. dak

    Abraham and the Ram

    The following image file is from a Pinterest page. Source: Panoramio (which is no longer available). Photo of Petroglyphs of Har Karkom, the engraving of an ibex and a...man (?) | Petroglyphs, Pictograph, Rock art According the Scripture Text from Genesis 22: Har Karkom...
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    Unmuting God the Father

    I would say to the person that he or she should not have allowed himself/herself to be indoctrinated with the belief that the Torah has been abolished, set aside, or done away with: for then the person might actually spend quality prayerful time reading and studying the Torah, and discover that...
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    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    It isn't clumsy at all. Just think about the first time you yourself ate from the tree of the knowledge good and evil: or do you suppose that has never happened in your case? That would mean you've never sinned because that is what the narrative is portraying. If so, you, and the rest here who...
  13. dak

    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    Yep. I don't see it as meaning two deaths but I see no reason at this point to argue that point with you, (I still think we are pretty close on this anyway). That is straight from the scripture; both from a very well known Psalm, and from Paul. The following Psalm of David, which is quoted...
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    What Does 'Surely Die' Mean?

    I read "a death you shall die". Matthew 15:4 KJV 4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. [Exodus 21:17] Exodus 21:17 WLC (consonants only) ומקלל אביו ואמו מות יומת׃ ס Exodus 21:17 17 The one cursing his father...
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    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    Without vowel pointing both netzer and natzar are written with the same Hebrew letters, נצר, (and there was no Hebrew pointed text in the first century). It is curious but true that there are certain forms of natzar that give us very close approximations of both city or town names found in the...
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    My Little Creed From the Meshiah Himself

    I fully believe everything the Meshiah teaches including the passage you have quoted here. However I am curious how you know that this is speaking of the Bema Judgment? Those accursed that are sent away into everlasting fire are going to the place "prepared for the devil and his angels".
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    My Little Creed From the Meshiah Himself

    We're done, have a nice life.
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    My Little Creed From the Meshiah Himself

    I not only believe but know what Paul says in that passage, but as I have already shown you: I do not believe Paul says "Christ" in that passage because of the understanding of that nomen sacrum which the Word of the Father has taught me. You learned it from the RCC interpretation: I learned it...
  19. dak

    John 1:1 and Jesus’ Sonship in Adoptionist thought

    I heard what you said but I disagree in the case of Acts 13 because the author specifically lays it out as a line of sequential events by using δε in a critically important place, and δε is also a particle of continuance, but, translators render it here as and, though it should more commonly be...
  20. dak

    My Little Creed From the Meshiah Himself

    Perhaps more explanation is necessary. The following image file contains 2Cor 5:10 from Codex Vaticanus. It contains the nomen sacrum Chi-Upsilon because by this time church scribes had already added case endings to the original nomina sacra and were now removing the second letters and leaving...