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If you want to deny that the entirety of believers, Jew and Gentile, are the bride of Christ, and argue, instead, that the bride of Christ applies only to the "Church of Israel"... are you not also subject to your own criticism that to say such things is to make all the men in the "Church of...

So, when God called Israel "My firstborn son", that made all the women men? For what ever reason, you are a rebellious woman--rebellious against Scripture, and rebellious against people who speak the Scripture which you have zero answers for (except the silliness of, "The Apostles were...

So, you want to be a man? LOL! The very same criticism you want to level at my understanding applies to your own--but you don't realize or won't acknowledge it! "Rules for thee, none for me."? Hypocrisy? Is that how to "rightly divide the word of truth"? Literally nothing you say stands any...

LOL! @Marilyn C was getting absolutely hammered in debate, so she shifted the issue to "show me respect" so that she could run away--it appears--she had enough of having to actually call the Apostles "disobedient", etc, lying against Scripture, to uphold her nonsense, so she decided to bow out...

Oh, I thought I was discussing with a "bible college" student or graduate. I thought you would be familiar, and know which Scriptures I was alluding to. Did you really need me to cite every verse instead of alluding to them?

God doesn't just "call" them His wife, He said "your Maker is your Husband" Isaiah 54:5, and, accordingly, describes Israel's idolatry as "adultery" in Hosea. He RELATES to them as Husband. Oh, but they're His son, so how could He do that? LOL! You are completely out of your depth--and we're...

I guess you're completely unfamiliar with Scripture : God called Israel "My firstborn son" AND referred to them as "sisters" (in Ezekiel), AND said He was married to them. You want to try to physicalize these things to make them problematic, but, again, your ignorant nonsense crumbles in the...

Who said men physically become women? I can't rewrite scripture just because you have a hangup. SPIRITUALLY, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ, just as Adam's own body was his bride. You have no answer for that, right?

No, logically, if Jesus said "Go into all the nations and teach them to observe what ever I have taught you", and the Apostles DID NOT go, they would have disobeyed Him! That is literally your position--if not, make it clear. The reality is that your position crumbles in the face of plain...

Just deal with the responses.

"Already but not yet" : we have the spirit of adoption, but we do not have the adoption of the body, etc.

I put "LOL" and I literally said I was being sarcastic. It was a joke--laughing at Marilyn and Doug's nonsense.

Quit debating the point with me LOL You're like a little dog trying to hump someone's leg. I'M ON YOUR SIDE

In other words, if they want to interpret "I will build My Church" as "the remnant of Israel Church", excluding "the body of Christ Church", then they would have to find someone else who was building "the body of Christ Church" LOL!

1. Yes, everyone claims their posts are Bible teaching. 2. I was being sarcastic, because these people are ridiculous.

In their perspective, there is "the church of the remnant of Israel" and "the church of the body of Christ" (the "remnant of Israel Church" isn't part of the "body of Christ Church")--plus, Christ addresses "the churches" (in Revelation) LOL!

Yeah, but that's the Church that CHRIST is building--the rest of the Churches aren't being built by Christ! LOL!

According to you, the Apostles disobeyed God, and did not go and teach the nations to observe what ever things He taught them to observe. LOL OK Isn't that a weird foundation to build on--"My nonsense has to be correct--and, in order for it to be correct, Christ's Apostles were disobedient to...

"in order that we might bear fruit for God" (instead of for death) removes any ambiguity.

Oh, no, I was drawn off topic into the black hole debate LOL