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But there is absolutely nothing in Hebrews 12:1 about praying to the cloud of witnesses. All prayer in the bible (with the exception of reports of prayers to false gods, such as, "O Baal, here us!") are addressed to God.

Let me assure you that I have never said the KJV is a bad translation. All I am saying is that it is not wrong to translate the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures into contemporary English, just as it was not wrong for the 1611 translators to translated Scripture into the English of their time.

But becoming a Christian involves the new birth. Once we are born again, we cannot become "unborn."

Just checking - what do you mean by "return to Jesus?" The thread title doesn't mention backslidden Christians who are evolutionists and gentiles. I think it is incorrect to assume that they are Christians. If they are not Christians, then whatever their ethnic origin, and whatever their...

I don't have access to that document, so I cannot comment on it. I do recognise the importance of providing the bible in languages of the world that don't have it yet. If it were just a few words like "thee", "thou" and "ye" there would be little or no problem. But it isn't. There are many...

I would say that some modern translations of the bible are made because the language into which they are being translated doesn't yet have the bible. Organisations such as the Wycliffe Bible Translators are involved in such vital work. As far as modern translations of the bible into English...

I have never met a Christian who wants the devil around, but he is. The passages mentioning the destruction of the devil are talking about the end of time. That is why the epistles contain instructions for resisting the devil. I agree that he cannot accuse Jesus any more. Jesus is at His...

Thank you for your time too. If you think that Satan is the Pharisees, why not just post biblical references to support what you say?

Well, if you mean that people are disagreeing with you when you say that Satan was the Pharisees, that is probably because we don't read that in the bible. Certainly Jesus said to some of His Jewish hearers that they were of their father the devil, but nowhere in the bible do we find any...

You mean you think the flesh is telling me that Herod, the Pharisees and Paul's persecutors are not Satan? No. I don't find such an idea in God's word; that is why I don't believe it.

Yes, I hadn't forgotten that, or that Herod killed James, or that the Jews stoned Stephen to death, or that Paul was persecuted. However, the bible doesn't say that Satan/the devil is the Pharisees, or Herod, or the Paul's persecutors.

Yes, Satan is called the accuser: “Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.” (Re 12:10 NKJV)...

Like you, I don't believe in the caricature devil/Satan as a horned figure in a red cloak with a tail and a huge pitch-fork. The bible says nothing about such a figure. But neither does the bible teach that Satan is a mere human being. Revelation makes clear that the devil and Satan and the...

Thanks. In that case, apologies for misunderstanding!

Sorry, why do you say "IF Satan is the devil?" The bible says he is: Re 12:9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Re 20:2 He laid hold of the dragon...

Yes, I know you keep saying that because Paul preached Christ and Him crucified, that gospel cannot have been preached before the crucifixion. Jesus preached it to the disciples, telling them several times that He was to be crucified, and that He would rise again.

Yet Jesus did speak gospel truths to Gentiles. The Canaanite women whose daughter was ill, for example, and the Roman centurion whose servant was ill.

Yet repeatedly, we read of Jesus preaching the gospel. For example: ““The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at...

Thanks, I did understand your post correctly, it seems. God bless you.

Not clear to me what you mean. Are you talking about the origins of people, places and things who/which are mentioned in the bible, but the bible does not give an account of their origins? You say, "Starting at the top: God." But over and over again, the bible describes God as...