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Why in the world do you keep bringing goats up? Do you think Premils cannot read that the goats go away into everlasting punishment when Christ returns? You might then argue, there you go then, no one to populate Premil's millennium. That might be true if the goats represent all the lost in...

One thing seems obvious. There are at least billions of angels since it makes zero sense that there are more people in the world than there are angels.

Is it your opinion that literal stars will not be shining forever?

What I see 2 Thessalonanians 2 :3-17 matching is Matthew 24:15-51, Revelation 13 and the 42 month reign of the beast, and Revelation 19, to name a few. Could it also be matching satan's little season after the millennium? No, because Revelation 20:4 already proves that the 42 month reign of the...

That's fine. Except not all Amils believe only OSAS is Biblical, and that NOSAS isn't. Some Amils believe NOSAS is also Biblical. You then end up with a false teaching in regards to Revelation 20:6. Even though the text plainly says that those that have part in the first resurrection are blessed...

I don't know if something like the following is what you had in mind? Obviously, 'context' is subjective. What one person sees as the context, another person might see something entirely different as the context. Assuming one of them is correct, both can't be correct. And if the one that is not...

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast...

The point I was trying to make is this. Revelation 16:12 is not going to be relevant until the 6th vial is poured out. Which could mean, one minute the river could even look like the pic on the left, the next minute it is all dried up. Maybe not within a literal minute, but you get the idea...

Does this mean you are taking it to mean something leading towards the following? Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. Except we haven't even...

Be sure to be fair here, though. Be sure to equally apply to @Spiritual Israelite what you apply to me here. Though, he might be an Amil, he too agrees NOSAS is Biblical. Except you don't have the backbone, thus too cowardly, to tell him that NOSAS and Amil's interpretation of the first...

Personally, I think both of you are making great points. As to your post here, I agree with you since it was obviously literal stars Abram would be seeing rather than literal angels. Context makes that obvious. And that you have mentioned context matters. I agree.

Amils typically argue that if the first resurrection(Revelation 20:4-6) is bodily, then those who are alive and remain at Christ’s return would not have part in it, since they never physically died. Therefore, they conclude the resurrection must be spiritual and applicable to the here and now so...

IOW, I guess--hath part in---can't fit anything such as the following---and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds Guess what? Even those that are alive and remain have part in this event when the dead in...

Except, IMO, the 2Ws are behind what is happening to the lost during the first 5 trumpets, not satan. After all, look what the following records. Revelation 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he...

Let's ignore this portion of the text then---that they should hurt only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. Plus let's ignore that Jesus already plainly said that a kingdom divided against itself can't stand. If we read further in chapter 9 we see this, yet in regards...

How then do you make your view of Revelation 9 fit Premil when it would fit Amil instead, if satan is in the pit when the locusts are in the pit, and when the pit is opened both are set free from it? And what about this---they should hurt only those men which have not the seal of God in their...

The following passage, for one, supports that. But what does that have to do with satan being bound a thousand years? 2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light...

Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. Regardless what this looks like, the devil...

Isn't that what I indicated? That you have GT ending on the last day of this age, day 1335? Which then means you are conflating the wrath of God with GT since you are not allowing for a period of time after the GT in order to fulfill the wrath of God. BTW, where are the 2300 days on your...

Not to mention, look what these locusts set out to do once released then compare with what satan does once released. Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal...