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    The false messianic age

    How is it remotely reasonable than anyone would be saying peace and safety when the following would be occuring during this 1260 days the 2Ws are prophesying? Revelation 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Explain what Scofield has to with any of the following below? Use Scofield as an argument against their views as well, in order to be fair about things, thus not cherry picking. BTW, some people that hold views similar to these early church fathers below, though they may have heard of Scofield...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    If anyone is confused about anything, it is you that is confused about what I'm saying and meaning. Why did I bring up verse 29 to begin with? Simple. Because I was arguing that not everything in the Discourse is meaning in the literal sense, and that a verse such as verse 29 proves it...
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    The false messianic age

    For example, where does Revelation 11:10 fit on your timeline? Revelation 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. I can picture them saying peace...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    In the meantime Christ can return before any of these things ever happen. IOW, that is because, regardless when Christ returns, He will return before these things ever happen, because these things are never going to happen to begin with, meaning in a literal sense like that. Some futurists are...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Nowhere in the Luke 21 account does it ever mention an AOD taking place in the temple of God. An AOD involving a temple that is no longer the temple of God in 70 AD makes sense exactly how? The A stands for abomination. You of course already know that. what then was the abomination that led to...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    I don't disagree with your arguments. So let me ask this. In 70 AD when the 2nd temple was destroyed, was it still the temple of God? Because if it wasn't, how can you reasonably argue that an AOD can't take place in future literal temple since it is not the temple of God, but in 70 AD a literal...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    My thinking goes something along these lines. Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation(genea) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    If you are going to charge me with misreprenting Pretrib, you then need to set the record straight by answering and addressing all these questions I ask below, in order to be fair to me, so I in turn can be fair to Pretrib, in the event I initially wasn't. BTW, I was Pretrib myself for decades...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    In your mind then, there were more souls lost in 70 AD than there are souls saved per what Revelation 7 records? How many souls do historianians estimate were lost in 70 AD? Is it a number greater than the number of souls saved via great tribulation per Revelation 7? A) Souls lost in 70 AD...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    That was not the ai interpreting Matthew 24:34. That was the AI polishing my interpretation of that verse. I provided my interpretation of Matthew 24:34 and how I see it connecting with 2 Peter 2 and 2 Peter 3, for instance. IOW, I provided a lot of context to the AI in regards to why I...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    I seeing it being more a possibility that Premil can maybe not be true,. But even so, that doesn't mean my view aligns with Preterism if Premil is not true. It would mean it aligns more with Amil who are not also Preterists, if Premil is not true.
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    One resource I use is a Strong's. But the way I use it is like such. The Greek word in question in a passage, whatever that might be at the time, I then see where it is used elsewhere in Scripture. I look for senses, which can be determined via context. One sense genea can mean is morally. For...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    I want to make sure that you are not contradicting yourself by asking this. Does this then mean you agree that Matthew 24:21 is great tribulation upon the church rather than involving 70 AD instead? After all, that verse also records 'great tribulation'. How is it reasonable that great...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    That aside. I then submitted my view of Matthew 24:34 to Chatgpt. Below is the polished result. Some of it involves Chatgpt analyzing what I have concluded. Therefore, when you see pronouns, such as 'you', 'your', etc in the text below, that is simply Chatgpt providing it's opinion of what I'm...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    What I am suggesting is what @The Light view is suggesting about Matthew 24. He insists I am rearranging things in Revelation by having the 6 trumpets taking place during the 6 seals, rather than following the 6 seals. If he instead is correct that the 6 trumpets follow the 6 seals, this would...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    For example. Obviously, the 6th seal in Revelation 6 is referring to Matthew 24:29, for one. You would have us believe that that is where all 6 trumpets fit? After great tribulation and before the coming meant in verse 30? IOW, like such. Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    I submitted the entire OP to Chatgpt to analyze and dissect. --------------------------- Chatgpt: ✔️ 1. Where the Preterist Argument Is Correct A. Strong’s is NOT a lexicon. You can agree with the Preterist here. Strong’s is a concordance; its “definitions” are not contextual lexical...
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    Revelation 12 walk through

    These mountains these Jews flee into, are they literal mountains? Because if they are literal mountains it is absurd that satan is unable to get to the Jews in the mountains. satan is an angelic being. Literal mountains can't hide and protect someone from angelic beings.