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    Help... the four creatures in front of the throne in Revelation

    Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. 2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. 3...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    I'm not applying that to all Amils. just some Amils, such as @WPM. I already know you have good discernment in regards to Zechariah 14 since we have discussed that ch before. For the most part, I think I agreed with your understanding of that chapter. Where I mainly disagreed is that I felt you...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Obviously, both the deeds of men and the things men have built, will be destroyed. For example, Sin City and Casinos. Obviously, they are not going to be remaining upon the earth. But it doesn't require that the entire planet needs to be engulfed in literal flames in order to destroy these. An...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    What destroys your argument is that Zechariah 14:1 is not meaning a coming during the first century, in any sense. It is absurd that the Lord gathered all nations to battle against Jerusalem in the first century, then went forth and fought against those nations, thus the Romans, especially when...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch 2 But unto you that fear my name shall...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    The way I go about things is like such. I interpret 2 Peter 3:10-12 in light of other passages that are also involving this event and or are meaning after this event. I will list a few below. Revelation 19:11-21, Matthew 24:31-46, Matthew 19:28, and Luke 19:15-27, to name a few. Not one...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Roger, I submitted my post in #76, and your post in #77, to chagpt then asked chatgpt the following, not telling it which position is mine and which position is yours. I simply labeled post #76 A), post #77 B), then asked chatgpt only this---Which argument seem stronger over all? A) or B)...
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    1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

    Totally preposterous that literal seas can be meant. Why then did God create seas to begin with? Have you not compared with Ezekiel 47? Clearly., there are seas still existing. How can the era of time Ezekiel 47:8-12 is involving not be the era of time Revelation 22:1-2 is involving?
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    8 days, the 8th day leading to a new beginning.

    The point of the OP can be summed as such. With weeks in mind. There can not be a new beginning of anything unless 7 days have preceded it first. Which then means, if Jesus returns soon, it will have basically been 6k years from the fall of man to that of His 2nd coming. A beginning of a new...
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    1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

    Per this example, that doesn't depict peace and safety if they are hiding in fear of the wrath of the Lamb. When they are saying peace and safety, they are not fearing the wrath of the Lamb at that point. In 1 Thessalonians 5:3, peace and saftety precede the DOTL. In Revelation 6 it is the DOTL...
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    8 days, the 8th day leading to a new beginning.

    Don't blame me if you can't comprehend the simplest of things, then charge with me spewing nonsense. Sunday is the first day of the week. Yet the logic would be this since every week has 7 days and then a new week begins. For example, Sunday through Saturday, thus an entire week, thus 7 days...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    The following is my view. I used Chatgpt as a tool to articulate my thoughts more clearly. It's still my view, not Chatgpt's view. The passage in Philippians 2:15 states: That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    Do you not live in the real world? Or do you live in fantasy land? It is now 2025. Literal temples where animal sacrificing resumes then is stopped 3.5 years later is not anything any normal person is worrying about happening in this day and age. I'm not saying none of the 70th week is still...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Roger, you are assuming some wrong things about what you are assuming I'm assuming. So let me use both Joel 2 and Joel 3 to demonstate how I'm understanding some of those verses. Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your...
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    A future third temple requires a new prophet

    They have been talking about rebuilding a temple for decades now. Still hasn't happened, likely never will happen. But even if one did get rebuilt, what does that have anything to do with fulfilling prophecies in the Bible? There is nothing recorded in the Bible that remotely matches a literal...
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    The Meaning Of “NO MORE” In Revelation

    Either I don't explain myself very well at times, or that some are simply not reading some of my posts correctly and carefully. I am a Premil, and that I believe the thousand years follow the 2nd coming, and that I believe 'no more' in Revelation means exactly what you stated--COMPLETE...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    It's hard to follow your view here, at least for me anyway. Are you basically saying that the 42 month reign is during/after verse 29 rather than during verses 15-26? After all, if you have any of the trumpets meaning during/after verse 29 , this means so must the 6th trumpet be during/after...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    The DOTL per view leads to and involves the 2nd coming in the end of this age. The DOTL ends when all 7 vials of wrath have been fulfilled. This would mean, per my view, the DOTL begins and concludes before the millennium begins. I have entertained in the past that maybe the millennium is part...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    Not the way you interpret 2 Peter 3:10-12, that it's meaning the entire planet is literally engulfed in flames, the same way the entire planet was literally engulfed in water during the flood in Noah's day. If that is the manner in which that passage should be understood, in that case, no, the...
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    WAYS THAT AMILS GET ZECHARIAH 14 WRONG

    In Acts 2, verse 20, in regards to the DOTL, that day does not come until the sun goes dark first, until the moon becomes as blood first. Have you not read Revelation 6? How can the following in Revelation 6 be meaning 2000 years ago during the feast of Pentecost? Revelation 6:12 And I beheld...