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I've been throwing it out for discussion for years now, So far no miracles. In fact, I don't believe anyone has even read it all. Maybe If I post the 50+ page original I completed 30+ years ago ....

GG: "As to John 17:3 you'll get the standard reply which @aspen has given you. When the 2nd person of the Trinity was incarnated as the person Jesus, He did lower Himself, even though He retained many aspects of God - or attributes. He was human 100%. He was God 100%. "Since JESUS' Father was...

Aspen wrote (#25): "The Mormons were on time and eager to share the gospel of Jesus with us and tell us about God’s plan for giving us bodies. I was eager to speak about commonalities, but was often lead in to crazy topics like a historically inaccurate Great Apostacy and weird ideas about...

The meaning of one's name, especially in this time period, often did not refer to the one who bore that name. This is especially true of a multi-word name which included 'God' (el) or YHWH (Yeho-, Jehu-, -yah, -jah) These were often praises to Jehovah. For example, 'Elijah' meant "God...

G. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): The Word (ho Logos) A few trinitarians actually attempt to “prove” that John 1:1c should be translated as “and the Word [Logos] was God” rather than “and the Word [Logos] was a god” by appealing to one of the strictly pagan concepts of “The Logos”! But, as...

F. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): Origen, the great Christian scholar (185 - 254 A.D.), spoke Koine Greek as his native language and knew it so well that he even taught it professionally. He was “probably the most accomplished Biblical scholar produced by the early Church” (Universal Standard...

E. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): The above posts show that word order (predicate noun before the verb as found in the NT Greek of John 1:1c) does not change the meaning to an understood article (“the”) as Colwell’s Rule suggests or some nebulous ‘qualitative’ meaning as some other trinitarian...

D. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): It’s been many years since I looked up all the clauses in John’s writing which had predicate nouns (also called predicate nominatives). Then I made a list of all of them which are parallel to John 1:1c (predicate noun coming before the verb). I didn’t have a...

C. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): But, you may ask, Isn’t there a significance to the reversed word order in the Greek (‘god was the word’) which is, in English, ‘the word was god.’? If you will examine a good NT interlinear, you will find that word order is basically meaningless. NT Greek...

B. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.): The next step in finding John’s intended meaning of John 1:1c is to look up the meanings of theos in a good NT lexicon. Numerous Trinitarian scholars [see footnote] admit that this word was also used for angels, kings, and God-appointed men such as judges in...

The following seven posts are an example of why I like to discuss with a person without disruptive comments from others. Most readers will refuse to even completely read just one lesson, and they will start right in with off-subject matter or their own hypothetical treatment of John 1:1c...

I would like to continue, but since it appears that you are the source on your side of the debate, and I insist on Scripture alone, we cannot continue. At least we exchanged ideas concerning 'worship' (shachah and proskuneo) and when the Father became the Father. That's something. Thank you...

I'm sorry we can't seem to exchange information, Scott. I think the problem is that you have your own hypothesis about God and/or the 'truth' revealed to you by others but not by scripture. You seem to rely on your hypothesis and 'explain' it in confusing language. The reason I wanted to keep...

Goof Grief, Scott! Occam would go babbling into the wilderness with such complex verbiage. ...full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. Since this one is nearly incoherent, perhaps you could provide another proof of someone other than the Father (who is clearly called God scores of times)...

Body Of Christ - The Definition The Body of Christ is a common, yet complex term used in the Christian faith. Some may initially think we are talking about the physical body of Christ, as in His human form on earth. But the term "Body of Christ" actually refers to the members of His church...

I guess you don't believe Occam's Razor. Since I don't believe scripture shows 2. above, I guess your turn now is to give a scripture which shows God has members (persons).

Definition of Christian: 1 a : one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christian

My 'extra' scriptures were all about one thing which you brought up. Was I not supposed to reply to it? ScottA: "You see, until Jesus referred to God as Father, God was simply God. In other words, what establishes God as Father, is the fact that He has a begotten Son." God was known as Father...

Do you not see that this (and about 20 others) are what Hastings' A Dictionary of the Bible is saying. I guess it's a start to pick one verse out of so many listed and complain about it. You have a lot more left that Hastings listed. And you are ignoring the main point altogether. And that...

The nature of God himself is spirit - Today's Dictionary of the Bible, p. 593. Even famed trinity-defender Dr. Walter Martin tells us, "God's nature has always been declared to be that of pure spirit....(John 4:24 - Greek)." - KOTC, p. 202. Also see p. 427, New Bible Dictionary (2nd ed.)...