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Yep. ......Yeah, I know all about the verse allegedly being a 16th century forgery, but the verse appearing in old Latin translations (not the vulgate) dating back to the sixth and seventh century proves this narrative to be hog wash, and there were Christians that quoted it dating all the way...

:rolleyes:........M'kay....and? Who was claiming to be "wise"?

Life is a "race" all on its own. I don't have time to be worrying about another "race" that from my understanding is supposed to be the work of God to "finish" to begin with.

I didn't know the process of "sanctification" was a 'race' to begin with. If it is, then I'm not interested.

:) Never said it was you

Well, don't Catholics essentially believe that the "church" is in a sense their mother? I can understand why would take it personal. You don't just talk about peoples mama like that and not expect them to take exception to it. I don't even take the RCC seriously enough to identify them as the...

I don't understand this strange obsession with becoming a "light" really. A few verses are written concerning God being light and such, and peoole have taken it and run wild with it, especially the gnostics.

Ok, so here is version 2 my account then. 1. First five seals are the "beginning of sorrows" spoken of by Jesus. 2. Day of the Lord ushers in the Great Tribulation 3. Saints still present on earth are given the seal of God on their forehead 4. Seventh seal is opened, ushering in the...

And where does it state that the gentile nations will actually start a ruckus over Israel building a temple in the scriptures you cite? Isaiah says nothing about a temple in chapter 24, neither does John in Revelation 12 or 20. We don't even know the exact time the temple will be built. And as...

Well the entirety of Romans chapter 5 & 6 makes it very clear that its the first death being referred to, not the second death. At what point did Paul or Jesus and the rest of the crew ever state that the wages of sin is the second death for all unbelievers? Ok...and I ask again, do you...

Sure thing sport, although I much prefer you give your understanding of it here. :) He sure as hell will be. What I find the most interesting about it is how easy it apparently will be for Satan to turn the world against God despite God sitting right in front of there faces. Jesus Christ...

That word "reason"...... One of the definitions of the word "reason" is to "think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic", or to come to a rational conclusion. How often do you see this characteristic among 'Christians'? I tend to see the exact opposite. Is an unbeliever supposed...

:) Nope, but I do know of him, very, very well in fact. But I'd be more than happy to meet him face to face someday as many others claim they have. As I recall, you are the one who'd much prefer 1 John 5:7 be removed entirely since its allegedly a "forgery", those three that bare record in...

Where does it state that God created us to sin? How does that fit with God calling his creation "very good"? What makes you think that God creating us as "angels" would suddenly make us "good" knowing that Satan, an angel was also "good", or "perfect in his ways" yet sin was still found within...

How so? Did God call King David a "man of war" because of a "lack of faith"?

Actually, I believe the four horsemen have been active for quite some time, only I'm not going to pretend to claim to know how long. M'kay :rolleyes: If I didn't have an "open mind" about it, this thread wouldn't even exist. I believe I'm close to nailing down a complete understanding of...

:) Always glad to make someone smile.

When I started viewing Revelation as a detailed blow by blow description of every end times prophecy written in the old & new testament, things started to become clearer. After having discussions with others concerning end times prophecy, I now believe the order of events can be boiled down to...

I recall Jesus referring to the lake of fire as an everlasting punishment where there will be lots of crying and gnashing of teeth. But I also recall Jesus stating that hell was prepared specifically for Satan and his angel gang. So I've always had the view that if someone gets tossed in the...

You can rest assured that I will have a ton of questions for God.....well......maybe not, because most of them would be concerning everything that went down on this earth, of which I won't even remember, according to John and Isaiah. "Godly discernment" doesn't exclude your ability to come to a...