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Sure why not, after reading it, it honestly sounds just as faulty as any argument I've ever seen. According to James, the guy that wrote it, God wanted the fall to occur all because he wanted to toot his own horn, to showoff just how awesome he was in the plan of redemption that, going by his...

The only ones making God the evil one are those claiming that God wanted the fall to occur. My argument on the other hand is centered around what was obvious (to me), that the fall was happening no matter what happened in Eden, tree or no tree, just like it happened in heaven.

As far as I can see, the Bible doesn't speak of any other place the wicked go to when they die except the grave, and this goes for the just as well. When Jesus died, it says he went to hell, and he wasn't just chilling out either because Peter says he preached to the dead as well. He isn't...

Was it not God's foreknowledge that he would eat from the tree whether he told them to or not?

M'kay, and what does this have at all to do with God putting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden to start with, the tree he told them not to eat from? Was the tree being there Gods doing, or was it "ours"? Do you really believe that your argument is going to fly with any...

Jesus would never hurt a fly? Well, I'm pretty sure that's a misnomer as well. Even Jesus Christ while on earth had a tipping point, the guy broke out a whip for Christs sake. Mind you, this was the only instance of him getting violent, not counting Revelation of course, when he really starts...

I'm not the one making this about the holy ghost. If you wish to keep bringing it up in the discussion, then actually make it mean something regarding the subject of this thread. Thus far I have been given nothing worth while.

First of all, I never claimed it to be MY revelation. I'm pointing out the plainly stated facts that, if you believe yourself to be led by the holy ghost, you should be able to see yourself. I'll tell you the same thing I've told everyone else. Go get "caught up in the spirit", talk to God...

Offered what? Empty words?

Well, then why even bother giving it to me? This is the word of God we are talking about. How about you go get "caught up in the spirit" like you often claim you do and actually get your warnings against what I am saying from God himself. Only than would your warnings actually have a foundation...

Then its obviously not referring to them literally being virgins, as if them not being literally virgins defiles them in Gods sight. If that be the case, then the vast majority of Christians are not saved.

If what I said was clearly against anything stated in scripture, then I would have never bothered making a thread about it to begin with. I have yet to see anyone come up with anything in scripture clearly showing what I have said to be un-scriptural here or anywhere else, so your warnings are...

You are questioning "the what" since "in your opinion" there isn't a literal place of fire where the wicked will be sent. If all you have is your opinion, and you can't back it up with scripture, then its best you keep your opinions to yourself and not make the faith look like foolishnesses...

Its not that we needed to fall, its just that God saw that the fall was coming. When it says Satan was made perfect, it says he was made perfect in HIS ways, but not perfect like God. Being a pure spirit being doesn't make you pure like God. When God saw all he had made in six days and said it...

You never bothered actually reading revelation at all have you? Its no wonder why many Christians have a hard telling you what it means to be saved, they can't even tell you what you are saved from, they can only repeat the typical buzz word "I'm saved by the blood of Jesus". :rolleyes: Now...

All liars and unsaved, and this guy is still here, running his mouth. I just don't know what to say anymore.

:D, good questions. But if someone asks me why he allowed Satan to deceive Adam and Eve, or why this or that verse says we were "made unto vanity" if the creation was "perfect in thy ways" and "very good", I don't think just telling them that its "none of our business" is how God would want us...

I would think that he wouldn't have given us the Bible in the first place if what happened and why it happened was none of our business. If you write something down, and claim it to be the absolute truth of a deity, then surely people will start asking questions, even believers.