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:) Well, ok, then you have your answer. Like I said, the answer is right in front of you. The problem is that the real clear cut answer is never pointed out. It rubs me the wrong way, because it is by this misunderstanding of end times events that God is made out to be some inept despotic douche...

It is easy for me to see, after years of putting much of my focus in Bible study on the last days. Here, I'll spell it out for you even further, and if its still not clicking within you, then go tap into that "holy spirit" you all claim to have so often and ask God if I am right or wrong...

Well, that's what it says. Where I differ with people is the claim that ALL who are not of the bride of Christ get tossed in the fire simply by reason of them not being believers, which cannot be true in light of their still being gentile nations, and other kings thereof in the new heaven and...

I have my own brand of "dispensationalism", if that's what you want to call it. For end times events, Revelation will always be my primary source of information, since the end is what the book is all about and spells out for you everything that is prophesied to occur in the last days throughout...

Honesty seems to be a foreign concept to his ilk. "Intelligent" and "educated"????.................. .................I have yet to be at all impressed with anyone displaying his brand of "intelligence" and "education" in relation to the faith. That's a joke if I've ever heard one.

:rolleyes:.......Uh huh, your point? :rolleyes:.........Yes, my lack of faith in Mary as the "queen of heaven", as the intercessor for my prayers, and as the "mother of all things" most certainly is a defining characteristic of me and most others on this site.....and your point is...

I would call the birth of "the flesh" to be a far cry from Catholic doctrine claiming her to be the "mother of God". It almost makes me want to vomit you know.

Well, the OP is asking if they are literally virgins, which makes no sense when considering the context. At face value, I would have to conclude that the mere act of intercourse with a woman even in marriage defiles me in the eyes of God, of which scripture states no such thing anywhere, new and...

:rolleyes:............Revelation 12:1 cannot be referring to Mary if we are to believe your doctrine of Mary being sinless. All sinful women were cursed by God with the birthing of a child in pain, and this is exactly what is being described in Revelation 12. I never believed this woman in Rev...

I think the question that needs to be asked about this verse is whether or not God considers intercourse with a woman even within marriage an act of defilement. In what way are they virgins? Are they virgins within marriage or outside of it?

Yeah, that's a good question isn't it?

Well, when it comes to the Catholics on this website, I really don't care much for them, and I should not have to explain why I don't.

:rolleyes:..............Referring to her as the "queen of heaven" exemplifies disrespect not only to her but to God himself. God has no queen, he never needed one, and never will need one, because he is God all by himself.

According to him and other Catholics, their church is the only true way to salvation. There was even such a thread started by one of them for Christs sake. To me it seems to violate one of the rules of this website of not accusing others of not being "true Christians", yet it went unchallenged...

Oh.....I see, well many Jews will be grafted onto the olive tree of faith, while many will be broken off, and thrown away for their lack of faith in Jesus Christ. The church, or the gentile believers may not replace the nation of Israel, but they will be replacing the many faithless Jews that...

:) Well, we won't be talking about everything that occurred in this world, for "the former things will not be remembered, nor even come to mind". Regardless, his passage into this world won't be of any concern to me, and I'm pretty sure it won't for the word made flesh either, since 'the word of...

People still sitting here arguing with this guy about this? I gave up, because I have come to the realization that BOL is just defending his lover, and you know how men tend to get with their significant others, they get REAL defensive, because they can do no wrong. ;)

What about it???

:) You left out the part "but that all may come to repentance". The throne judgement will not be a time for repentance, it will be too late for that. At that point, you're just going to stand there and shut your pie hole so that God can get to work. The lake of fire was never meant for humanity...

Uh huh, your point?