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  1. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    Let's define terms: "immortal body" means "body not subject to death" and "mortal body" means "body that is subject to death". You can't suffer the "Second Death" unless you have a mortal body with which to suffer it - therefore, the wicked come up in the Resurrection of the Damned with the same...
  2. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    What's pseudo-mil? Scripture teaches the Millennium reign of Jesus and the saints takes place in heaven after He comes in glory and resurrects the righteous (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 KJV; John 14:2-3 KJV) ...while the wicked drop dead in their tracks "at the brightness of His coming" (2...
  3. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    We're actually living between the sixth and seventh seal now. The sixth seal was fulfilled as follows, which can be confirmed by history: Earthquake: 1755 (Lisbon epicenter) Sun darkened : 1780 Moon turned to blood: 1780 (the night following the darkened Sun) Stars falling: 1833 Now, the...
  4. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    I'm pretty sure both resurrections include bodies with those in the first receiving immortal and those of the second, mortal which is why they are subject to the Second Death, where they will again pass out of existence in an eternal death, a permanent death, a death from which there will be no...
  5. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    Hi, our beliefs in death and hell should be our concern... it's a direct reflection of what we think of God. Is He a sadistic, tyrannical, manipulative, adolescent control freak Who reacts with infinite indignation and extremism against those who would spurn His advances/invitation - the...
  6. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    You speak truth, friend, and those who love the truth are always glad to hear it. We need more Jeremiahs today who cannot help but raise their voices against the prevailing winds of false doctrine, no matter how much they try to keep silent.
  7. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    My absolute favorite line in the second video, "WHEN AND WHERE IS HELL": "DON'T YOU SEE, FRIENDS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THERE CANNOT BE A NEVER-ENDING HELL IF THERE IS NO NEVER-ENDING SINNER. "IF THE SOUL THAT SINNETH SHALL DIE (EZEKIEL 18:4 KJV), AND IF THE WICKED DO NOT POSSESS IMMORTALITY...
  8. Phoneman777

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    That's exactly what the videos teach - that man does not "possess" a living soul or that he was "given" a living soul, but he BECAME a living soul, as a consequence of the union of the body and the breath of life, which at death, the reverse takes place: Breath returns to God, body to dust, and...
  9. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    After the flood, there was still an atmosphere, their was still daylight, there was still water to drink, there was still food to eat, there was still the hand of God's blessing resting on the Earth so that eventually the waters receded, allowing them to go forth and multiply and replenish...
  10. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    2 Peter 3:10, where Peter says in the day Jesus comes as a thief, the heavens will pass away, the elements melt with heat, and the Earth and everything in it will burn up - IOW, a planet totally incapable of sustaining life. God's plan was to have life continue after the Flood - however, His...
  11. Phoneman777

    Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

    It's important that we distinguish between "punish-ment" and "punish-ing" where the former denotes the end product of a process, while the latter denotes the process itself. No where do we read the wicked will endure a never-ending process of punish-ing - it is the end result of that process...
  12. Phoneman777

    This world and the wicked are going up in a puff of smoke when Jesus come - thus negating Premil

    Peter says that when the day of the Lord Jesus' advent comes "as a thief in the night", there won't be seven more minutes of anything going on down here, let alone "7 years of tribulation" ;)
  13. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Spiritual death is a present condition remedied only by being born alive spiritually in Jesus. "She (or he) that liveth in pleasure IS DEAD while she liveth." However, "the soul that sinneth, it shall die" refers to the Second Death of the impenitent wicked.
  14. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    No, Scripture says the Body + Breath = Living Soul applies to all creatures. Job says if God gathers His breath back to Himself, then all flesh shall perish together and turn back into dust. See, death is the REVERSE of Genesis 2:7 KJV. It's a shame I have to argue with people that death is...
  15. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    A Soul is not a ghost/spirit/poltergeist/spook/apparition that resembles in transparent appearance, voice, and thinking of a formerly living person who's died and flies off to wherever. That's paganism. Biblically speaking, a Soul is a whole creature, whether a saint, sinner, or animal, that...
  16. Phoneman777

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    This caught my eye. A comparison of the following verses disproves OSAS: Matthew 24:12-13 KJV 1 John 5:3 KJV Romans 8:7 KJV These "many" of Matthew 24:12 who allow widespread iniquity to turn their agape love cold and dead which leaves them unable to endure to the end and be saved...ARE...
  17. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    If the Living Soul comes into existence as a consequence of the union of the Body and Breath of Life, then at death when this union is broken and the Breath of Life returns to God and the Body returns to the Earth, the Living Soul ceases to exist...until the one or the other of the two...
  18. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I'll let you answer that. Genesis 2:7 KJV is a math equation which deals with 3 variables: the Body, Breath of Life aka Spirit, and the Living Soul: Body + Breath of Life = Living Soul (Living Soul comes into existence only as a consequence of the union of the Body and the Breath of Life.)...
  19. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    To Christians who, when demons come to them in the form of dearly departed loved ones with false messages, are at risk of falling prey to satanic deception, and wind up lost for all eternity - OSAS is not Biblical according to Matthew 24:12-13 KJV, 1 John 5:3 KJV, and Romans 8:7 KJV. I don't...
  20. Phoneman777

    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Not accepting the plain word of God isn't?