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    The Reception of the Holy Spirit and Being Born Again

    Christians have the righteousness imputed to them because they have believed. Abraham believed in Gold and it was counted to him as righteousness (Rom 4:3). In the same way Christians believe in God and it is counted to them as righteousness (Rom 4:5).
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    The Reception of the Holy Spirit and Being Born Again

    The dying of Jesus on the cross, is the basis upon which we are redeemed from suffering the penalty for our sins. Jesus' sacrifice is the basis upon which God can save us. God's holiness demands that the penalty for sin, all sin, be paid. God's grace has provided the perfect sacrifice to...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Perhaps your thinking that is why you get so much wrong.:D
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    But you are not one of the Twelve to whom and about whom Jesus was speaking in John 15:16. PERIOD -- 'NOUGH SAID!
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    RT's illegitimate language use

    Romans 9 speaks to that directly. There Paul points out that the nation of Israel was chosen to serve God's purpose. He says there, They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. To them belong the...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    That was Jesus speaking to his (twelve) disciples. It is not about you. Understanding the Bible's teachings most definitely does indeed depend upon the reader's education, skill set and intelligence. That should be obvious.
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    "Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in.." scripture

    The two words "go" and "make" are the only action verbs in that sentence. The two words "baptizing" and "teaching" are adverbial participials modifying the verb "make". In other words, baptizing and teaching describe the method whereby the disciples are made. It is similar to what I might say...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    None of that has anything to do with me.
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I don't even begin to know what all of that means. If you are referring to Original Sin, I reject that. I consider the doctrine of Original Sin to be one of the most heinously false doctrines around. Neither of the two verses you cited support that false doctrine. Ephesians 2:3 does not even...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I was referring to the actual phrase, "birthed in the Spirit". It is not there and I don't know what is intended by it. Given what has been said, I don't think it means the same thing as "born of the Spirit". Or perhaps I should say that the phrase "birthed in the Spirit" does not mean the...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Where does the Bible even speak of "birthed in the Spirit"? I can't find that anywhere. It does speak of born (again) of water and Spirit, but birthed in the Spirit doesn't show up anywhere.
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Do you even know what that means? It doesn't mean that we no longer need to obey God's law. It means that we are not eternally condemned for failure to do so. Obedience is at the heart of the NT. But under the New Covenant, we have the help of the indwelling Holy Spirit to help us in obeying.
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I don't think so. Ritajanice has too much Calvinism/Reformed Theology in her(?) thinking.
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I am not sure what you intend by sinfulness. If by that you mean the tendency to sin, then I don't agree. The tendency to sin is not sin. And there is nothing in the Bible about our not being able to keep the law; only that no one has. I don't agree that the sin issue is removed. Our sins...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Yes, in your opinion. God didn't say any of that. You just did. Try not to complicate God’s word. God said, "Thus declares the LORD, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him"(Zech 12:1) You think the spirit that God forms in us is dead...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    That is not quite true. God gives each of us a spirit when we are born (or conceived). That which is born of flesh is flesh, meaning that our fleshly bodies come from the flesh of our parents. And that which is born of Spirit is spirit, meaning that our spirits comes from Spirit, that is...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    If the water in John 3:5 is the amniotic fluid of physical birth, then Jesus has mad being born physically a condition for being born again. That is universally met by the whole of mankind and therefore is not a limiting condition; it is not really a condition. at all. I do not believe Jesus...
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    The Reception of the Holy Spirit and Being Born Again

    Your believing is your work. You are saved by your believing; therefore you are saved by your works. But Paul said that we are not saved by works. Clearly there is a distinction between the works that Paul was talking about and your work of believing. You need to understand that difference...
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    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    You have got to be kidding! ! !
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    The Reception of the Holy Spirit and Being Born Again

    Believing is something you do, which according to you is a work. So then you have been saved by works. Where did I go wrong with that?