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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    The curse is not over. Look around you.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    This is absurd, IMO. You can not read one verse to understand a concept. And if you read the whole passage, you find out that being born again comes on one condition.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Hogwash. You are again explaining away clear scripture to fit your interpretation. You would tell God what feelings he's allowed to have, even. It's not a figure of speech, it's Truth. Again, you can't accept that God's will is not always done on the Earth. Why do you think Jesus prayed "Your...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Wait, now believing in free will is idolatry? You can't both confirm free will and denounce free will in the same post, like you just did, if you want to be taken seriously.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    If you are implying something else spell it out. I figure if it talks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a calvinist.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    So, you are again picking one scripture over another. But, ok, let's stick with that passage from Romans. What does Paul say right there? 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Not sure why this matters since the curse is still in effect.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    What do you mean by being dead? I'm dead to sin, but I still sin? Somebody is dead in thier sins, but they can still be saved? I still don't know what this is supposed to explain. Of course belief is a condition for being born again. Jesus said it is. "That whosever believes in him shall have...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Really? Because I prefer to believe all scripture fits together instead of pitting on verse against another. If God says he desires all to be saved, I don't have to explain that away because another verse say he wills that he will lose none. Both are true, but it's also true that many will fall...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    It's exactly what you have been implying.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    You can't divorce one metophor from the rest of scripture, you have to see how it fits perfectly together. Yes Christ pays for our Ransom, but we have to accept the payment.
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    Passover vs Eucharist

    No, I don't believe it actually becomes Christ's body, although I like the idea. Does that make sense? Perhaps I would like to believe it on some level, but although belief is a choice, I can't quite get there on this one, probably because I don't see where scripture requires it to be literal...
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    This Generation

    Those gentiles were Rome. And this happened in 70 AD. 20 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
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    This Generation

    Was Jesus talking about our generation here? If I say something will happen in this generation, would you think I actually meant in a generation 2000 plus years in the future?
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Not sure what you are trying to say here either.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    I'm not sure what you are getting at, but you didn't address the point, that is, we must first choose to believe before being born again.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Which is what I've been saying all along. God isn't just zapping some with salvation and bypassing others. We either respond to his love or we don't. Well, since God isn't affected by time as far as I know, this is kinda obvious. The question then is what is his purpose and will and we already...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    It's both because I believed and because he redeemed me. Yes, and Paul also says that we are now dead to sin. And yet will still sin. Obviously this slavery is not absolute. Obviously we can choose who we listen to and follow.
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    Passover vs Eucharist

    Thomas says that it's bread and wine, not literally blood and flesh, just as I've been saying. I already said I believe Christ is present. I really don't know who you are arguing with. Do you believe that if someone has never taken Eucharist, he is condemned to hell? That isn't biblical. If you...