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"Yet to all who did receive him.." What does receive mean? It means to take something. To recieve, as used here is the same word used for "They took palm branches”... To be given, presented with, or paid (something) We know that the "receive" here is active because previously it says: 11 "He...

I can't fight against God if God has ordained everything I do.

Yes, it says the salvation of believers is God's will. The salvation of non-believers is not God's will. Again, God does all the saving, but he only saves those who are willing. That's exactly what is said. Those who receive and believe God wills to save. You system flip flops it and claims God...

No, that would be you.

That's not what the text says. Now you don't want everyone to mean " everyone" just as you don't want all to mean "all." You impose your theology on the text instead of just accepting what it says.

I wasn't joking about scripture, but whatever floats your boat.

I already posted about what those verses clearly state. As usual, you are reading it backwards and adding a bunch of baggage from man made religion. 9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the...

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:12 I see no indication here that this receiving is being forced on us by God. Now, I know what you're going to say. 9 The true light that gives light to everyone was...

And you are the one mishandling scripture to make God the author of sin, which is plain to anyone not under the influence of your hyper Calvinist philosophy, that was originally derived from greek philosophy....

Then go away. No one is forcing you to interact with me.

You all seem to pick and choose what scriptures to believe. The egg and sperm do not create apart from God causing them to create. I can't believe what I'm hearing from people who constantly bang the sovereignty of God drum.

There's no practical difference between these options. Can Adam do something different if God ordained him to sin? Not in your doctrine. So, yes," caused" is exactly the right word.

Again, be honest..quit sidestepping the implications of your theology.

Not according to Calvinism, where God's decree comes before his knowledge. You need to be consistent with your Calvinist theology.

Like I said, you seem unable to understand that other Christians do not and never will come at scripture from your perspective. Think about that when you reply to them and maybe you can at least understand why we get annoyed with what we see as constant evasiveness. Because we see your whole...

There you go, using "allowed" again. In the determinism of your system there is no "allowed". Try being honest. If everything as claimed in the confession, brought about by God's decree, was there somehow something above God's decree that caused the fall? God's knowing isn't even the question...

Is there something above God's decree that cause it?

Lol, it's quite odd how you keep telling others what they know or don't know, or what they think or don't think. Do you have some kind of god complex? While you insist people apologize to you for "disrespecting" you? It's hard to take you seriously, sitting up there on your high horse. You seem...

Yes, he did create everything good, but according to ya'll, he caused the fall by his decree, so if that's true, yeah, then he would be to blame.

God says he knit us together in the womb. Our parents don't create us. What happened to his sovereignty? Did he suddenly drop the ball and have to have someone else do the creating?