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Ok, so why is it wrong?

Where did I apply it to any category of person? No interaction with what I just said, just "I'm right and you aren't.?"

Lots of people who are quickened refuse to surrender. You can't claim to exercise Faith and still claim he does everything and you don't do anything BTW.

Absolutely. He died for all. John 3:16 1 John 2:2

Here's what I said: See the problem with picking out scraps of verses and building a theology off scraps? You never really get the whole picture that way. There are conditions you have to meet before God will work in you. I didn't specify whether the you refers to saved or unsaved. It doesn't...

No, you don't. You believe the choice is made for them, and they only follow the strongest desire that God has given them to follow. Again, at least be consistent. This compatiblism nonsense is exactly why people like me get so frustrated with Calvinists. You constantly talk out of both sides of...

Again, hogwash, according to your own doctrine. If she does exactly what God asks, but is not elect, in your system, nothing happens. Or, perhaps she will be temporarily enlightened and then God will say "Ha, ha, just kidding, you weren't really elect."

You keep saying that you refuted my position entirely, as if that means something. Show me, don't tell me. All I saw were some random verses with no context. So, what was the quote from John 6 supposed to prove then?

ROTFLOL! How can you actually say that when you whole theology rests on that not being true? If she is doomed, in your system, she has nothing at all to do with it. At least be consistent..good grief.

I'm not angry. And you are delusional if you think you refuted anything. And that passage doesn't say anything about irresistible salvation. In every case the initial salvation and continued salvation is dependent on belief. You have to assume God's will is always done to see it your way. It's...

Uh, yeah and who does the father give him? Duh, whosoever believes.

Chances are Willis is chosen to go splat, too. Unless Jesus really did die once for all.

One verse with no context? Lame. 35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; ywhoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe... Whoever.

Why do y'all always believe you are not Bob? Chances are, if you are right, you are Bob, and just think you are not.

Show me where I said anything about having the power within me and being rewarded with salvation because of it. You are just making stuff up.

You miss the point. We can do all things through Christ. But that requires us to choose reliance on him. It doesn't just happen to us, we must participate.

Wow, what a warping of scripture. Sad. Really. Anything to deny Free Will, I guess.

First, you are bearing false witness, because I never said anything about a power with in us. Second, I can show you plenty of verses that speak of believing preceding salvation. But I know you look at all scripture through warped Calvinist lenses, so you won't see what a free Christian sees...

Many will fall away, according to scripture. Not because God is unfaithful, but because they fall for the enemies lies.

Oh, but she can choose to throw it away. And that is what happens when people fall for false teaching and worship things other than the one true God.