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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Not works, but continued belief in Christ as our only source of salvation.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    If a gift can't be given back, it's not a gift, it's an offer that can't be refused. God's not the mafia.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Wesley was a humble servant of God whose shoes I am not worthy to tie...as close to a real saint as is possible.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    That mother is not the God who died once for the sins of all, he is a little god who just plays games with his creation.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Armenians are from Armenia. They probably teach a variety of things. I don't think Arminias believed salvation could be lost, but others took his beliefs to that logical conclusion. Some took it too far in that direction and did end up depending too much on works, IMO. There is a balance. We...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Uh-huh, and what do you do with Jesus telling us we have to remain in him for him to remain in us, and all the verses warning against falling away? We can't go off and fall into false teachings and believe in the flying spaghetti monster and still have eternal life. Neither can we maintain...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Translation: "The Bible doesn't mean what it clearly says."
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    How many verses do you need telling you that belief precedes salvation? That is " rudimentary biblical knowledge" yet you all can't even get that straight.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    What do you mean by him teaching works?
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Another non answer.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    This is just plain dishonest, and/or talking out of both sides of the mouth. Yeah, I know, Piper does it all the time, too. When it's something good, you all want to say he ordained it, if it's something bad, you want to say he allowed it. Man up and own up to the fact that in your system, God's...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    What part do you want answered? I don't see where you've refuted anything. You do the normal pulling out a few scraps of verses without context, I've replied to multiple times on both forums. I often only reply to what I think is the main issue, because I'm usually on my phone and I'm not off...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    No, it's saying that Israel has no right to complain about God using them to bring the gospel to the gentiles, even using their rebellion. The Objector is confused when he claims no one can resist God's will, and he's saying the same thing as we see in Romans, Chapter three, in essence "If I do...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Lol, don't go away mad. Surely you thicker skin than that. God works good out of the evil that happens for those who love him. He's not sitting back doing nothing, he's actively working in ways we cannot and are not supposed to fully understand. But we know he doesn't decree evil, as that would...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    That's a non answer.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    There's a big difference that you seem unable to understand between God determining everything and allowing it. If I choose to allow harm to occur to my child, because it's the best case scenario wherein my child will still be able to freely love me, that's far different than me causing the evil...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    ROTFLOL! " I didn't do it officer! The gun killed him, not me! I only squeezed the trigger!"
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    But the objector is a Calvinist, IMO. He claims in a round about way, that no one resist God's will. ( Wrong!) And Paul's reply? 19 One of you will say to me: Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Paul...
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    Um, no, and why are you trying to tell me what I think? But your system doesn't work that way. There's no " allowing" in Calvinism. It's God causing everyone's evil, and then punishing them for what he caused.
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    Regeneration before or after saving faith

    2Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. 13For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good pleasure. 14Do everything without complaining...