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  1. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    What unseen power is in your life that is twisting your arm and forcing you to commit sin? Is it Satan or one of his demons or is it some voodoo witch that has cast a spell on you? Of course, the obvious answer is that no one forces us to sin: we choose to sin and every single time we sin, we...
  2. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    There was a man caught in a severe ice storm who was trying to get home. As he trudged through the snow, he finally came to the lake, over which was his house. The thought of hiking around the lake to get home was unbearable and he thought he might freeze to death before he got there. He wasn't...
  3. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Sin everyday like you? Have you been a slave to sin for so long that you don't realize that there's power to overcome? Do you even pray in the morning that God will keep you from committing sin? Do you not know that Jesus is "able to keep you from falling?" Man, what corrupted version of...
  4. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Show me where God has said that it is not keeping His commandments which demonstrates our love for Jesus (John 14:15 KJV), but a daily spewing of the spit of presumption in His face and the driving of the rusty nails of our sin into His hands and feet which demonstrates that "love" (Hebrews...
  5. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Hi F2F, Paul said that salvation by works causes the offense of the Cross to cease. In that statement, we see the crux of the entire issue. Why would one find the Cross offensive? Certainly not because of the idea that by it He paid our sin debt, for which one among us that recognizes our...
  6. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I marvel at how you seem to not be able to grasp that no one here is arguing about trusting in themselves or their works for righteousness. Unfortunately, I don't know any other way to explain it to you than this: Obedience is not nor ever will be the source of our righteousness, but is the...
  7. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Because you questions arise from a flawed mindset. Saying things like, "The Ten Commandments were only given to the Jews" when Jesus Himself said the Sabbath was made from the entire human race, is one such example.
  8. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Little children, keep yourselves from idols." - 1 John 5:21 KJV (According to John, the Second Commandment of the Ten Commandments is still binding upon Christians). Paul said, "Let him that stole steal no more". That's the 8th Commandment which Paul forbids Christians to break.
  9. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Not under the law" doesn't mean "not obligated to obey the law". It means "not under condemnation of the law". It's time for this false interpretation to die the death into which it has dragged so many unwary souls professing Christ. The Two Great Commandments are a summary of the Ten...
  10. Phoneman777

    Not Obligated but not At Liberty?

    A similar statement would be, "We are not obligated to regard posted speed limits but we are not at liberty to drive contrary to them." Please answer the poll question and leave your thoughts if you like.
  11. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have a right to the Tree of Life and may enter into the gates to the city. For outside are (lawbreakers)." Revelation 22:14-15 KJV
  12. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Bro, when you say that we are not obligated to keep them, then by default you are saying we are at liberty to break them, no matter what you claim. Honestly, I can't believe I'm having to argue this point. If you doubt me, then why don't you poll the members here. As a matter of fact, I think I...
  13. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    That's because there is NO ONE who here who is teaching that salvation comes by any other means than grace through faith in Jesus alone. But, because some here cannot face the unwelcome truth that obedience is the evidence that one has been saved that same grace through faith in Jesus (and a...
  14. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You haven't made the claim that it is not wrong to break the Ten Commandments. What you claim is that Christians are not obligated to keep them. How can you not see that if you are not at liberty to disregard a thing, then you are indeed obligated to regard the thing?
  15. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You are free to disagree, but you are not free to deny the clear Biblical distinction between the Mosaic Law that was temporary and the Ten Commandments that have always been wrong to break and are to this day wrong to break. It has been and always will be wrong to have other gods before God...
  16. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    If you love God, you will not break the first four of the Ten Commandments, INCLUDING THE SABBATH, and if you love your neighbor, you will not break the last six of them. Why don't you admit that you don't have a single problem with: "Thou shalt have no other god before Me." "Thou shalt not bow...
  17. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I didn't say keeping the law made anyone righteous, I said it is the evidence that Jesus has made us righteous. And those who truly love Him do find obedience to be burdensome at all: "Hereby we do know that we know Him if we keep His commandments." "For this is the love of God: that we keep...
  18. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "By the law is the knowledge of sin". Surely those who love Jesus would want knowledge of that which made necessary His ignominious death on the Cross so that such could be avoided at all costs, right?
  19. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Eve ignored the crystal clear, plain, unadulterated commandment of God and sought out what she thought was "reasonable" counsel, didn't she? Those who object to the plain "thus saith the Lord" have always sought out some nebulous verse of Scripture to undermine it and prop up their own...
  20. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    There is only one reason why anyone would ask God to clarify what He has already made crystal clear in His Word: "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: For it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be". Romans 8:7 KJV Rather, we should pray that God would grant us a...