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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    It is heresy according to Calvinistic theology...not according to the Bible. If you think that it is heresy according to the Bible, then bring up your verses, and let us discuss this rationally. John 1:12 teaches us that we must receive Him if we are going to obtain the power to become the...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    You are going to insist on this... I pray that the Holy Ghost convicts you over your attacks on me. I believe that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are distinct individuals within the Trinity; and you are jealous of me because I understand the nuances of how this works and you don't. I believe...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    No; for I believe that it is only the drawing of the Father that enables a man to believe in Christ. Being drawn by the Father does not guarantee salvation; it enables a man to make the decision to receive Christ. Apart from the Father's drawing of a person to Christ, they are completely...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    I neither deny the Trinity, nor am I semi-pelagian (Ephesians 2:8-9 is a crux and a foundation in my theology). The LORD rebuke you, satan. (I am not addressing you, @Dave L, but rather the spirit that is behind your statements). The devil is the accuser of the brethren and his name means...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    The Book of Acts (2:38-39) equates Oneness with having the Holy Ghost; and you have also misinterpreted that verse in 1 John. If I do what it takes to receive a piece of bread, a fish, or an egg, God is not going to give me a stone, a serpent, or a scorpion (Luke 11:9-13). And I certainly do...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    Even after we believe on Him, we continue to be sinners; even as we continue to believe. Psa 51:3, For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Luk 18:9, And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Luk...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    One of my favorite verses; however, it does not substantiate Unconditional Election, neither Limited Atonement, in my view. For God is love (1 John 4:8, 1 John 4:16), therefore He loves each and every one of us. Some of us respond to His love positively and others don't.
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    That does not answer my question. "all" in 1 Timothy 2:6 does not refer only to those who were given to Jesus by the Father, this does not refer to "all". "All" means "all"...that is, everyone in the world, Jesus died for. This death on the Cross is only appropriated by those who believe on...
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    No other President of the USA has gotten such acclaim by so many

    Yes; he put in Gorsich and Kavanaugh...so that if Roe v. Wade ends up getting rehashed, the Supreme Court will very likely say that that unborn child has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and that the mother doesn't have the right to take away its life...in spite of the...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    Supernatural faith (over and above saving faith) is a gift of the Holy Spirit. Saving faith is a yes response to the message of the gospel. If I told you that the cherry pie was poisoned, I think that you would eat the apple pie. Now, you would still have the option of not believing that I...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    This may be true of literal clay and butter; however human hearts, represented by the clay and butter, have the capacity to make a decision.
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    No other President of the USA has gotten such acclaim by so many

    Amen. A major aspect of the purpose of God for our lives is that we should be made holy, do you not agree?
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    If our choice is not important, how does a person become born again, from a human perspective? How or when is the blood applied? He did. 1Ti 2:5, For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1Ti 2:6, Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    To the preaching of the gospel, of course. If we do not make a choice when faced with the gospel of Jesus Christ, then that means that God makes the choice for us. So it is God's choice that some people go to hell after hearing the "good news" that He died for them on the Cross. Some people...
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    No other President of the USA has gotten such acclaim by so many

    Yep. So it does not only mean "to set apart". It also means "to make holy." Which means there ought to be a practical outworking of being set apart.
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    Faith is more of a reaction if you do not want to consider it to be a choice that we make. The same heat that melts the butter hardens the clay. Does the clay make a choice to be hardened; and does the butter make a choice to melt? We don't know; but it should be clear that the butter melts...
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    The obvious answer is that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of the Lord... A preacher is therefore indispensable according to Romans 10.
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    Foreknowledge is based on foreseen faith which has nothing to do with works.
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    By all means show this doctrine by the same logic.
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    Why John 6:37 is grossly misunderstood and misapplied

    Having faith in Jesus is mutually exclusive to works according to Eph 2:8, For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9, Not of works, lest any man should boast. This is very basic and I'm surprised that you don't know it.