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You are a liar and your father is the devil, the accuser of the brethren.

So now faith in Jesus is proclaimed to be self-righteousness by you... This makes me agree wholeheartedly with the doctrine of Total Depravity...for this kind of depraved thinking would not exist without it being a reality.

Yes, it is based on foreknowledge of whether we will have faith; for nothing as the basis of foreknowledge is an invalid answer: foreknowledge has to be based on something or it has nothing to do with knowledge of anything; but rather would be a predetermined choice based on no knowledge whatsoever.

No, Jane has not made her beliefs plain; others have done this.

I want to know your answer to that question first.

I am in good company with Paul in being attacked as a heretic by you. Act 24:14, But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: re #101.

Nevertheless, my belief is not heretical by God's estimation...because it is based on biblical truth. Nope.

Show that through a verse in Luke 4.

It's by faith, which is a choice that we make.

@Dave L, you also have not succeeded at proving that your slander of me is the verifiable truth.

If you say so...

Yes, because predestination is according to foreknowledge.

If you say so...

Rom 4:16, Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, Rom 4:17, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of...

You need to take your own advice. He did go the other way. And even after the Lord's disciplining of him, he also had the option of going in the opposite direction a second time... Of course he took the wiser course of action, recognizing that the previous thing that had happened was the...

In my flesh there dwells no good thing...the same cannot be said of Jesus...for He was without sin. His temptations of the flesh were not temptations to do evil...for God cannot be tempted with evil...rather, satan tempted Jesus with things that are good, that would have ultimately turned out...

Actually, the ancestry given in Matthew is not Jesus' real ancestry...it is only the family line of his stepfather Joseph. There was a curse on the line of Jeconiah...which, if there was no virgin birth, would have excluded Jesus from being the Messiah.

It means "holy one" (small "h" small "o")

It should be clear that Mormons who are deeper in are less than honest about what they believe in.