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  1. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    @Dave L: Is the Spirit of Christ a different Spirit than the Holy Spirit? Because there is a sense in which the Spirit of Christ is Jesus Christ. I am a spirit, I have a soul, and I dwell in a body. Is this not the common teaching?
  2. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Actually, there is a passage that says that. Jde 1:3, Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jde 1:4, For there...
  3. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Also, he that hath the Son hath life. How can this be if the Son is not a Spirit? And yet, Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Figure that one out.
  4. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    There is a sense in which I have always agreed to these things. But then, if I disagree, it has to do with the context of the discussion. Because there is a sense in which the Holy Spirit is the Father (and another sense in which He isn't).
  5. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    If faith is a choice, and God's foreknowledge of whether we will have faith is the basis of His choosing us, then in all reality we chose Him first and His choice of us is based on our choice of Him. However, this is contrary to the scripture at hand (John 15:16). In order for John 15:16 to be...
  6. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    That is your contention. When I look at the creeds, I do not see them contradicting the Trinity as I understand it.
  7. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    So He looks down the corridor of time and sees those who will understand their need of a Saviour, and chooses them, not on the basis of their choice, but on the basis of their understanding of their need...which is in a sense faith...and therefore faith is not a choice?
  8. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    And I have the Trinity. It is just that my version of the Trinity rejects the heresy of Tritheism.
  9. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    The Son declares the Father. When we see Jesus we see the Father according to John 14:7-11. This is because the the Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father...the Father is the Spirit of Jesus. Compare John 4:23-24 with John 14:7-11. A Spirit is something that cannot be seen...but if a...
  10. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Foreknowledge of our choice of Him? then He didn't choose us...we chose Him.
  11. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    I am satisfied... I know that I do not deny the plurality of our Triune God, even though I seek to emphasize His Oneness in order to fight against the heresy called Tritheism. As Paul said in Ephesians, so I say to all of you: Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the...
  12. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    We didn't choose Him...He chose us.
  13. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Also, John 1:1 is to be interpreted by Ephesians 4:10; and this is in keeping with Deuteronomy 6:4, James 2:19, John 10:30.
  14. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    The Father of eternity is still the Father. Try again. Like I said, in order to come up with a "traditional" Trinitarian concept in Isaiah 9:6, you have to change the wording (saying that Holy Spirit goofed in the translation of the kjv) not once, but twice.
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    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    It would be like, if you could take a banana without a peel, put a peel on it, but somehow the banana without a peel continues to exist as a distinct banana from the banana with a peel. Then you unpeel the 2nd banana, but it also retains its existence as a banana with a peel; and the 3rd banana...
  16. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    In the declaring that I have one cluster of grapes, or one bunch of bananas, the adjective/noun cluster or bunch is singular but you cannot help but make the noun bananas or grapes plural. If you apply this to God you cannot help but say that there is one bunch or cluster of Gods. My version...
  17. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Receiving our glorified bodies is not ultimately salvation?
  18. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Yet, when you do the same with the term "Lord" it is a little different. The fact that there is one Lord means that there is one who is ruling. And therefore when it says that there is one Lord, there can only be one Lord, not three-in-one (although that is the conclusion I ultimately come...
  19. J

    Man has a part in his salvation=things to do, believe and say.

    Yet it is saying that we didn't choose God...and therefore predestination isn't about God foreknowing what choice we would make...God chose us...that means that it was entirely predetermined by the Lord who He would save (Romans 8:30) and who He would ordain to condemnation (Jude 1:3-4). Your...
  20. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    I have given evidence for the truth of the matter in previous posts; therefore if you are not convinced by the scriptures I have shown forth, then we will have to agree to disagree. I do not know that it is an essential issue, except for the fact that it is the truth and I think that anyone in...