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Well, my approach is a little different. I believe John is using descriptive language to try and describe something, in the best way he knew how as he had no clue as to what he was seeing. My opinion is the locusts represent helicopters or jet planes with aft shooting missiles and probably a...

Hi Oliver, Your words: "The translation "departure" is available and was used up until the 17th century." If the word "departure" was used than it wasn't meant to signify a rapture but rather a "departure from the faith" in keeping with the meaning of "apostasia".

I tend to take a literal approach to scripture and try not to "spiritualize" everything. Hi Enoch, Imo, I didn't "add" anything. That is just the time I believe it occurs. I believe there are two aspects to His second coming both described in scripture. Seeing it as a one-time event considering...

Hi Oliver, Your words:"But "falling away" is, for two reasons, a poor translation. Until the KJV this was translated "departure", and it clearly means the rapture." You would have to prove that beyond a shadow of doubt to me. The early church fathers had what could be called a...

I’ve noticed that fellow believers have many interpretations concerning the last days resurrection(s). Is there only one, maybe two, or could there be more? I thought I would share the results of a study on this topic that I‘ve been working on lately. The common beliefs regarding this subject...

Hi Rocky, I don't think the scriptures are convincing enough to be portraying a pre-trib rapture or that the eagles are angels. If Christ wanted us to believe they were angels then He would have said so, instead of using a description for "carrion-eaters". If anything this might portray the...

Hi Hammerstone, Oh, well if you put it that way :huh: then I'm a critical text guy. I prefer the NIV for accuracy as you read but the KJV along with the Strong's for deeper study. That's my 3 cents.

Hi Rocky, Your words:"It simply does not hurt to believe in a pre-trib rapture... Especially as the scripture has said" If one's only concern is spiritual then I agree we should be "spiritually" ready as if Christ could come at any moment, however, if one doesn't prepare physically...

A little clue to what you're talking about for those of us who are historically challenged might help.

Hi Arnie, Post 58 is a good one for the pre-wrath position. Thanks.

Hi Rocky, Your words:"The eagles (angels) are those who are going to retrieve your carcass from the earth when the trumpet sounds. And... Taking the scripture in context, this will happen in ordinary days, like those of Lot and Noah." I don't believe "angels" are what this verse is talking...

Hi Oliver, Unfortunately, you haven't seen anything yet. Look for a PM at the top of the page.

Hi Ridgerunner, Your words:"America does not contain the blood of all that were slain upon the earth. For Babylon to contain the blood of all that were slain upon the earth she would have to exist from the time Cain slew Abel until the last person to be slain upon this earh is slain. Babylon...

Hi Terry, Thanks for your peace-keeping efforts, however sometimes spiritual hubris overwhelms a person at which point the only spiritual fruits being shown are sour grapes.

Hi Martin, Your words: The number one reason post tribulation rapture theory diminishes the authority of the mid trib/pre wrath-rapture theory is the fact that Jesus doesn't return twice." I believe He comes once but it's a two-part event. His arrival in the air for the rapture and His literal...

"The Pre-Trib School gets it out of order, as does the Pre-Wrath school also, which should be immediate alarms to anyone who has actually studied the events to occur on "the day of the Lord" per both the OT prophets and the NT Apostles." The Day of the Lord starts well before Armageddon, at the...

Hi som, Your words:"Not true! The sixty ninth week ended at the coming of the Messiah. The seventieth week was half spent by the messiahs ministry." Many people misunderstand this. Christ's first coming wasn't timed by the beginning of His ministry but in fulfillment of the prophecy of Zech.9:9...

I really expected better than that, Vet, I'm sorry you feel that way.

Your words:"SAME THING, as that WRONGLY SUPPOSES to miss the latter half of Daniel's SYMBOLIC "one week" which is the time of the tribulation. " That is only your opinion based on your interpretation of scripture. Mine is different and I back it up with scripture as it reads and it is just...

Hi Vet, Your words: "Rev 2:12 - 12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; (KJV) If that is meant about a flesh messenger, then it would have to mean Apostle John, since Christ told John to write down what he saw to the...