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  1. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are 90 % cheap shot, 5% bible, 5% other ingredients. That is how anyone can see you are angry and frustrated. But I do understand your frustration and inability to hold a civil conversation. The verses I bring are not considered by you. You see them as fodder to be reframed and neutered...
  2. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Omission is the foundation of your doctrine. Do you really think you can void out the pretrib rapture verses? Those verses are not there to omit other verses.
  3. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Lol Hilarious. Here is your attempt to exegate : """Revelation 1:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Can you see here that the "fine linen" that the Lamb's wife is given is not literal fine linen...
  4. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    In your doctrine, is the second coming at the white horses? IOW, Is he riding a white horse with the saints accompanying Him on horses?
  5. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It would be fake if a postribber prayed that. . ...and no red flags to them. Woah
  6. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    rebuilder 454 said: The Christians left behind in the GT, are those that lost their zeal, intimacy, and first love. Some are in habitual sin They are not worthy. Not ready Not prepared. That is Why "some pray" ( not postribbers) what Jesus said to pray; " PRAY that you may be COUNTED WORTHY to...
  7. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The AC kills all refusing the mark. That alone disqualifies any hope of running from cave to cave hoping to escape. Ahem...no postrib rapture.
  8. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Just omit the pretrib rapture verses. Oh wait...you do that already
  9. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There is no crown for having a erroneous postrib rapture doctrine..( actually pretending the AC does not kill all on the planet refusing the mark) The baby Jesus, Lot and Noah were all gathered prejudgement.( how evil of Jesus to escape...God would have just protected him) Is it shame on them...
  10. rebuilder 454

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    14 pages of attempts by postribbers, to "prove" Jesus was mistaken, and did not declare 2 separate comings in matt 24 ,to save a flawed postrib rapture doctrine. Most of the attempts post verses trying to void Jesus's words in matt 24. Comical watching postribbers on their hamster wheel...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's like saying "when the Bible says "peter" I see nothing to suggest that could possibly be an actual person. A parable does not name the people in it. Why? Because it is fictitious . But let's pretend it is a parable. The message is the same.
  12. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are referring to salvation. Jesus is not, in his "worthy vs unworthy" dynamic Not all recieve crowns.why? Not all are worthy Not all saved go up with Jesus in the rapture ( 5 foolish virgins) Again , not all were worthy. Only those Christians worthy, as Jesus is saying, will go in the...
  13. rebuilder 454

    Obeying Acts 2:38 is the only plan of salvation

    Jesus is the remitter Not the water, or the act
  14. rebuilder 454

    Obeying Acts 2:38 is the only plan of salvation

    No Peter did not have the full revelation. You are referring to JTB baptism and message. That was common at that time to misplace the gospel of grace Peter was mistaken on several Truths, but later got it right.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Christians left behind in the GT, are those that lost their zeal, intimacy, and first love. Some are in habitual sin They are not worthy. Not ready Not prepared. That is Why "some pray" ( not postribbers) what Jesus said to pray; " PRAY that you may be COUNTED WORTHY to escape the things...
  16. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    I don't know of any postribber that believes that. Babylon is destroyed during the trib.
  17. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    They are given robes to wear. The great multitude came out of the trib AND ARE NOT UNDER THE ALTAR. MARTYRS NUMBER FULFILLED. (Not that anything from the Bible matters to you. )
  18. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Would love that Dave. I am in s texas.
  19. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    It says they ALL TAKE THE MARK or die. Note "ALL". You don't get it. All die. Martyrs fulfilled during the trib. You missed it. The martyrs are NO LONGER under the altar
  20. rebuilder 454

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The fact that we have all the pretrib rapture verses accompanying Rev 19 testifies you are embracing error. Obviously. The fact that the AC kills EVERY MAN, WOMAN, AND CHILD REFUSING THE MARK DURING THE TRIB , leaves no postribber running from cave to cave DURING the trib. All of you are...