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So we have; Before the flood or prejudgment; One taken the other one left. we have peace time normal life and commerce going on with one taken the other one left and we have Noah in the ark immediately Before the Flood as Jesus pointed out. And as Jesus pointed out, we have 50% of a group...

They are Jews as the bible declares. Even the tribes are listed. No way around it.

Are you saying all 3 are the same?

The bible says yes. Maybe do a study on it?

Two different gatherings. In the virgins only half are gathered. That is the pretrib rapture

I assume your position is "one coming and one gathering"? You still don't get it? There are several gatherings. Rev 14 has the 144k in heaven ( an obvious gathering), as well as a subsequent gathering of those gathered by Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle , DURING the trib!!! Leave it...

You guys just uncovered yet another anti pretribber dilemma. You guys are interpreting the "swept them all away" as ALL the earths inhabitants as destroyed. ...yet another impossible self imposed dilemma. Now I am wondering if yall think there will be an actual flood at the rapture?????

Nope. The one taken one left behind is in the same setting as Before the Flood. That Dynamic is also in the setting of peacetime, Commerce ,normal life, and in the setting of watch and wait ,for it is the rapture. Jesus, in the SAME BREATH,in mat 25, gives a second group of 50% taken, 50% left...

there is no model with all earth's inhabitants destroyed at the rapture. Because that would be outside any stretch. When we leave out the setting of "before the flood, normal life, peacetime, commerce, and Noah removed" , then proceed to show a model with Jesus's setting removed, we can surely...

QUOTE "If some are raptured at the time, and that those left behind(verse 39) are wiped out when these are raptured, and that the trib is 3.5 years, who then experiences this 3.5 year trib if some have been raptured and the rest have been wiped out at the beginning, not at the ending of this 3.5...

In "a, b, and c", you omitted the setting of " before the flood". Then you attempted to make the 2 comings Jesus depicted into one. Again, can any postrib rapture adherent explain "before the flood" ?

He asked you interpret for us mat 24: 44 *******Crickets*******

Yes it is sobering to think that it is our choice to be one of the wise virgins or one of the foolish virgins

postribber challenge. Show me how to interpret the statements by Jesus he is gathering pre flood. Or....how The gathering Jesus said at his coming will be like lot..IOW gathered prejudgment. Any postribber want to unpack that?

postribber challenge. Show me how to interpret the statements by Jesus he is gathering pre flood No game playing or disrespect.

You are not very old are you. You waste peoples time in disrespecting in such cunningness. You are just here to disrespect people who are digging in the word.

Do you ever actually engage in serious debate, ???? Every reply you post is some snippy cute deflection . Trolling instead of respecting who you are talking to. You think hiding behind a smiley and a "blessing" empowers you to disrespect and toy with people ??? Why are you here????? Just to...

QUOTE """I just don't make it into something it's not... make the implications into something they are not. And there's apparently a pattern there, because that's exactly what you're doing with what I'm saying, too.""" I have only reported the setting Jesus described. Ok, so since that is...

When they pull the "Darby card" lol, you know they have run outta gas big time...lol

we have verses You have none pointing to a postrib rapture. Instead we see rev 14 has a coming and gathering DURING THE TRIB, destroying any hope of being chased from cave to cave by the ac.