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    Your favorite Psalm?

    Love Psalm 37...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Sure... Well, it is implied as immediately following what we "see" with John in his vision in verses 14-16, and then depicted graphically in verses 20-21. The language used is intimately similar, even synonymous, with what we "see" again, in Revelation 20:9-10. Hm. Interesting. Well...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Well I did, you just don't think so, which... is fair enough. But these are interchangeable terms, meaning referring to the same group of people: Israel ~ God's Israel, consisting of God's true Jews, which includes many outwardly/ethnically Jewish people, but all those circumcised of the heart...
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    8 days, the 8th day leading to a new beginning.

    Well, He rose on ~ as you said ~ the first day of the new week. That it is the eighth day after the first day of the previous week is true, but has no significance. But that it is the first day of the new week has far-reaching consequences, the first of which made the Lord's day... the Sabbath...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Well, I'm very much Amillennial, and I do hold to the "single event," but regarding not thinking Revelation 19:11 and 1 Thessalonians 4:14 are the same event, that's certainly not my view; I would hope no one actually thinks that. As for me, I mean, I literally just said... a few hours ago...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I just quoted two passages in the Bible that undoubtedly identify Christ's Bride as the church. But He is. It's not, oh, "on the same level," I guess we could say, as a marriage between a human husband and his wife, of course, but what Paul says about husbands and wives... how they should...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Pish. For the most part ~ but not fully, either now or when Christ does actually return ~ the bride of Christ is in heaven now and will come with Him in His return, but there will be many who are still alive when Christ returns, as Paul says and is clearly indicating in 1 Thessalonians...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Heavenly, spiritual things are not the same as earthly, human things... or in this case institutions, like marriage. Right. But ~ again, in a nutshell ~ we are to regard our own marriage... or that of a husband to his wife... in this world in light of Jesus's relationship to His Bride, the...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Well they are; all we have to do (among other things) is look at what Paul says in Ephesians 5:22-33 concerning wives and husbands... "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, His body, and is Himself...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    I'm not so sure about "most," but those who do... are wrong... <smile> As I said in my previous post to you (which you may or may not intend to respond to), "the 'pothole' many unwittingly fall into is not realizing that many of the events in parts of Revelation are thematically arranged rather...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Okay, but surely you don't think this (ore something like it) is an actual satellite photo of the earth: <smile> So, yes, God's footstool (God proclaims this Himself in Isaiah 66:1), but this is to say ~ symbolically, really ~ that, as Jesus is teaching in Matthew 5, God's sovereignty and the...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Hmmmm... What do you mean when you say "the earth is made His enemy"? Grace and peace to you.
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Well, God the Father does not have a right hand like human beings do, so yeah. <smile> Right. Ugh. <smile> I mean, Christ is going to (literally, of course) return and defeat Satan once and for all. It will certainly have spiritual implications, but it will be a real event. I hope we all...
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Not all of it... the events of Revelation 19:11-21 are prior to the events described in Revelation 20:11-15. The events of Revelation 19:11-21 are synonymous/concurrent with the events of Revelation 20:7-10. The events described in Revelation 19:1-10 are after. Grace and peace to you, Marty.
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    How do Amils typically deal with Revelation 19:7 in light of Revelation 21:2,9-10?

    Agree. Right... Hm. Well if you say, as you did ~ and I agree ~ that Revelation 19:7 and Revelation 21:2, 9-10 are the same events, and Revelation 19:7 is after the final judgment (which, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought you stated also), then... how do you then say this? If you in fact said...
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    LEFT BEHIND ... what to do?

    The "mark of the beast" as a sign that identifies those who worship the beast out of the sea (Revelation 13:1). The contextual significance of marking those who worship the beast is the opposite of the seal on the foreheads of those who worship the Lamb (Revelation 7:3, 14:1), so, yes, "the...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Yeah, this is not an original thought, but... well, I seem to remember something about returning evil for evil, and, you know, not doing it...<smile> Grace and peace!
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    Rapture ... soon?

    This is pretty mild compared to other things that have been said, but come on, man. Grace and peace to you.
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Right, it's just goofy, really. <smile> So, it is what it is, but to disparage or denigrate fellow Christians for believing it is... really bad (terribly sinful)... and to be self-righteous to any degree for not falling for it is also really bad (terribly sinful)... and that's my point. To...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Disagree. So, not necessarily, and probably not. They're just... mistaken. And that's really okay. I mean yeah, we all agree that we want to understand everything in the Bible perfectly, and probably to an... "unhealthy"... degree, we think we do. But... it's really okay. Really. They're...