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I realize that, yet it can provide useful insight others have provided in the past that maybe not everyone is familiar with. What is so bad about about that? I'm not saying these are the AI's thoughts on the matter itself. I'm using it as a tool in order to explore insight others in the past...

Maybe some don't find AIs useful but I tend to. Especially since I'm convinced AI is going to play a major role in the beast system. So I then asked an AI the following. ------------ Me: Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall...

Regardless when it occurs is not the issue. The issue is, if taken in the literal sense, where does everyone go while the planet is supposedly engulfed in flames? And what Scripture shows everyone returning after the planet supposedly burned entirely up? Per Noah's flood, for example. Not one...

Even though you too are an Amil, where other Amils typically insist Jesus never sets foot on earth until after the GWTJ, you appear to be an Amil who is capable of reasoning coherently, unlike some other Amils whose interpretations do not always seem to follow a consistent line of reasoning. For...

Nor does Jesus ever say anything about not setting foot on earth again until after the time of the GWTJ. Yet some would have us believe that when Jesus returns He never sets foot on earth at the time. That then equals a scenario that you are arguing against---that Jesus returns, then leaves...

You are arguing that the second beast is just enforcing a mark that already existed. But you are completely ignoring who the mark belongs to. Revelation 13:1 explicitly states that the first beast ascends out of the sea. This is a future, timed event in Johns narrative. How can the...

Is it true of all Bibles that there are exactly 66 books? Take unbelieving Jews, for instance. How many books are in their Bible? Take Catholics as well. How many books are in their Bible? Hmmm...just like that, your math no longer works.

You are treating Revelation 13 like a collection of independent, floating concepts. You cannot have the effect (the mark and the buying/selling restriction) without the cause (the beast ascending, the second beast arriving, the image being set up). If the beast hasn't ascended in a specific...

I gave your post to an AI then asked it to point out any and all holes in your approach here. The following are the holes it found. You are likely unwilling to accept the critque since it was an AI doing the critiquing. That's your choice then. But even so, I don't see this AI not making sense...

It's not logical to connect that to all times. Simply because, when John saw these visions he indicated that the beast ascends out of the pit in the future. sometime post his day and time. And logic and common sense says that there can't be this MOTB to begin with, unless the beast has ascended...

1 Kings 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold, Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and...

You're placing a great deal of weight on the word καί (and) in Revelation 14:9, but you should interpret that verse in light of Revelation 13:16. Revelation 14:9 says--- If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand... Notice that even within...

In Revelation 20 it involves being cast into somewhere. Should we take it mean that they are cast into God, rather than cast into a place, since God is is a consuming fire?

I edited and rewrote what I previously said in this post in order to make my position a bit clearer, below. If you're referring to my comments about 2 Peter 3, I've already explained why I don't take the fire there as literal. Here's why. I understand Revelation 14:11 (the smoke of their...

It's not that I want the fire or need the fire to be literal in the LOF. I would hope it isn't literal. Except fire is used way too many times to describe this place to not take it in the literal sense. Matthew 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into...

I tend to agree. And besides, I'm already not arguing the MOTB can be reversed once one takes it. John saw everything from start to finish. Nothing he saw indicated one can receive the MOTB, then repent, then it be reversed as if it never happened

I'm not arguing God can't the soul. I'm arguing that God can kill the soul and indeed does via the LOF and the 2nd death there. IT is the ECT camp that is arguing God can't kill the soul. The logic would be what I submitted below. If God can kill the soul but never kills the soul, that does...

In satan's case then, what would that torment consist of?

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. If it is impossible for even God to kill the soul, why then bring up a subject that is not even valid to begin with? The killing of...

Where are you coming up with death of any kind being the subject of Luke 20:35-36? That's not the subject. The subject is life not death None of the lost are in view in those 2 verses . Only the saved are. Are you meaning somewhere else in Luke? I was only focusing on Luke 20:35-36 in...