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The OP keeps on insisting that Revelation 14:9-11 is the LOF. Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God...

If you are of the camp that only OSAS is Biblical, but NOSAS isn't, we are never going to be on the same page here. My view is that both OSAS and NOSAS are Biblical. Though, that might sound like a contradiction, it is actually not a contradiction. A contradiction is that only OSAS is Biblical...

I edited my last post since I do not agree the LOF is in view in Revelation 14. They are being tormented via the vials of wrath. That's what they have no rest day nor night from, the vials of wrath while they are in progress.

In my view Revelation 14:9-1 is not pertaining to the LOF. But even so, David still gets cast into the LOF in the end because David fell away, and that NOSAS(not once saved always saved) in Biblical.

IMO, Revelation14:11 pertains to the here and now during the last 7 vials of wrath and not Revelation 20:10-15 instead. That aside since that is obviously debatable. For example, compare with. Ezekiel 38:22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him...

The following, IMO, is undeniable proof that your infant son will never be thrown into the LOF. Revelation 20:11 ¶And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small...

You claim to be a Christian but apparently don't even understand the basics of Christianity. We all helped murder Christ since it is because of us He had to die to begin with, in order to save some of mankind. Had Christ not died and rose, every single person's fate would be the 2nd death, no...

You are not even remotely being logical here. Per your reasoning you are missing an entire 3.5 years. If Christ died in the midst of the week, He obviously rose in the midst of the week as well. Plus, Pentecost would also be close to the midst of the week. Pentecost certainly didn't happen 3.5...

You must not be reading the same texts I am then. These locusts don't wreak havoc on God's chosen ppl, they wreak havoc on those that do not have the seal of God in their forehead. IOW, they wreak havoc on satan's camp, the lost. That alone tells us satan isn't the king over them and isn't...

If there was an AOD involving the 2nd temple 2000 years ago, what then was the AOD? Assuming there was one, well it should no longer be a mystery 2000 years later as to what it was. Except not all interpreters that insist an AOD involved the 2nd temple 2000 years ago can even agree with each...

With AI now a reality and the technology advancing rapidly, you don't have a clue what you are talking about here. As if it is merely a coincidence that with the aid of AI these things can be easily achieved. Something that was not possible 20 years ago, 50 years ago, so on and so on. Go ahead...

Who then is Israel meaning in Acts 1:6? And why didn't Jesus tell them they were sadly mistaken if they thought the kingdom was going to be restored again to Israel if indeed it wasn't going to be? Jesus was not a rookie. He would not have made a rookie mistake by not telling them they were...

Why would you not reason it like that, the fact 26b, regardless what it is referring to, is clearly meaning sometime post that of Him being cutoff? And in that same context which is not the same context as verse 25 nor 26a, the text plainly states that a prince shall come, and that the people of...

I don't agree with you nor @Davy in this case. But since I still have @Davy on ignore I can't respond to his post then. Yet I can see his response to you that you quoted if I'm reading any of these posts when not logged in. When I'm logged in, what you quoted from @Davy reads like such--- You...

Wouldn't the solution be this then? It's not what might fit the crucifixion that counts. It's what can't fit the crucifixion that counts.

Everyone knows that all coins have 2 sides. You cannot argue with only one side of the coin without also considering the other side of this same coin. So which comes first? A) or B)? A)--Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation [of born again...

Seriously, does the following---they shall cast them forth with SILENCE----remotely sound like it is describing---And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection? Also, in Amos 8:3 who should we take the 'they' to...

The verse you quoted is from Amos 8:2 (KJV). In context, it is part of one of the prophet Amos's visions announcing judgment on the northern kingdom of Israel. A few points help explain it: "Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any...

Daniel 9:26 And after the sixty-two weeks, the anointed one shall be destroyed, and there is no judgment in him: and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince that is coming: they shall be cut off with a flood, and to the end of the war which is rapidly completed he shall...

Why can't it simply be determined from the text itself? But that doesn't mean we disregard relevant texts outside of these texts. These other texts would be a 2nd witness, so to speak. Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to...