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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I don't think they are being dishonest. I've said this many times, but to be lying, one has to know the actual truth and then knowingly make that truth into an untruth. If they think they are telling the truth about something, then they are not actually lying but just... wrong. <smile> I...
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    Hey, IndianaRob, you should understand 'prepared' in that verse in the same way as, oh, "dressed or," or "made ready for," or even "sent for the purpose of," rather than anything along the lines of "created." The writer of Hebrews, in 10:5-7, is quoting and referring directly to Psalm 40:6-8...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I did, actually. I know what you said. Nobody here is saying it's just a figure of speech. Nobody. You don't think you are. Yeah, I get it. I'm not saying you're lying about any thing or any one, Davy. But... in your own words... you say there are some here "who think David's throne which...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Nobody here thinks that. That's just you characterizing it ~ mischaracterizing it ~ as such. Grace and peace to you. Right. <smile> That's very true, but that's neither here nor there. <smile> Even though they point them out <smile> No, they obviously are, but they're actually correct...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I think what @Scott Downey is saying, Davy, is that "David's throne" doesn't really have anything to do with David's actual chair, but rather the God ordained position over Israel, which David possessed in the lesser sense (see above) and Jesus possesses ~ now ~ in the Greater (also above, and...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Destroyed in what sense, Scott? Certainly not in the sense of annihilation. As God says, "Behold, I am making all things new" (Revelation 21:5). He is not making new things. And in a sense, at least, he's correct. It will be renewed. The earth will be "recreated" only in the sense that all...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I'm going to, um, cut and paste my previous post (#1430)...<smile>... David's throne ~ where Christ now sits ~ was never a literal chair... <chuckle>... but a position of power and preeminence as king over Israel. Note: Now, did David have a literal throne? Well yes, probably so, but the Bible...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    David's throne ~ where Christ now sits ~ was never a literal chair... <chuckle>... but a position of power and preeminence over Israel. Note: Now, did David have a literal throne? Well yes, probably so, but the Bible never refers to the actual chair he sat in... <chuckles> David was placed...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Two things: Number 1: There is no place for anti-semitism or discrimination against any human being of any ethnicity, for that matter. But physical Israel and God's Israel are two different... entities. God's Israel includes many ethnic Jews, but a true Jew of God is not necessarily...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    Well, what we're talking about is the Revelation of John, and... kind of what you're saying here but a bit differently... whether the visions/dreams given him are as relevant to us today as they were to his original hearers, and vice versa. And the answer, as you seem to agree here, is yes...
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    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: Why I believe this about the timing of the NHNE

    We should see it as both... we are in the midst of it. God's millennium is the same stretch of our time conveyed by the writer of Hebrews in chapter 1 of that letter... "...in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son..." Hmmm. Revelation is saturated in symbolism, but this does not...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    Faith and works are not opposites of each other; the former is the reason for the latter, the... oh, let's say catalyst... for the latter. We are moved... motivated... compelled to do good works because we are assured ~ by God, of course ~ of our being in Christ and thus saved. It is in this...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    Right, but this is not something Arminius actually said, but rather the unavoidable implication of what he did say regarding this "point," or rather, in this first objection of his. And now yours. Well good, but it is the implication of your understanding. Having this faith is what causes...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    I mean, you can do what you want, for sure, but I don't think anyone is "okay" with being lied to or about... including you. But no reasonable person reading through our exchange would say I actually quoted you as saying "yada, yada, yada," and would understand clearly that I was just making a...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    Interesting... Yeah, so somehow you quoted me as saying, "I got nothin' to refute anything you said," but I never said anything of the sort. To anyone, much less you. Yeah, no idea who said that, just that it was not me. So... what was that you were saying about being dishonest? <smile>...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    Really, @TribulationSigns , all that should be necessary is to point out any one of several things. You cited some of them, but these are the clearest to me: "I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    Just a couple of things from your previous post... <chuckles> Regarding Romans 8:29 and Ephesians 1:5... I quoted them word for word, Spiritual Israelite. Verbatim. It does; if we are not in Christ, we can hear the word of truth, for sure, but if we are not in Christ, we will not trust in...
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    Does Understanding Eschatology Prove You Are Saved?

    <chuckles> Oh, I see, so, in saying, "I don't understand your points" and "you're never clear" and such (repeatedly), you were really saying, "You don't understand my points." That's... interesting.... And a microcosm of so many other elements of this entire... "conversation." But okay, fair...