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Christ Jesus is the Savior of all people, the world, in the sense that it is possible for all to be saved because of His act of redemption. Christ Jesus is the Savior of only the elect in the sense that the elect are the ones given to them by the Father, of whom He will not lose one, but raise...

I mean, who cares about all that, really, Berean? The only real treasure is God's Word and the truth therein... Christ Himself, Who is our hope, our salvation, our all. He is the way, the truth, and the life. And one day our faith will be sight. Grace and peace to you.

Hmmm, so your theology and/or eschatology is based on a song? I mean it's a nice one, but.... <smile> David, you said previously that "God established a literal 1,000 years in Genesis." I'd like to see you expound on that with... something more than a song... <smile> Grace and peace to...

Hmmm. Well I agree in a certain sense, but maybe not in the sense that you seem to mean that. God is making all things new (Revelation 21:5), not "making all new things." <smile> Grace and peace to you, Scott.

Hmmm.... Well, the parts of Scripture that are apocalyptic, yes, for sure, but of interpreting Scripture as a whole no. Interesting. I would say those who read apocalyptic parts of the Bible as they are meant to be read see it just as literally as anyone else, that all these representations...

But there will be, right, Scott? One great day, that's all there will be... Of course then, our faith will be sight. Lord, haste the day... Grace and peace to you.

Hmmmm, "near," and "soon," and "a little while"... Such a troublesome (to men) terms/concepts... Not that God causes confusion or discord, because He certainly does not, but yeah, those things... nearness/soon-ness, a little while (with regard to time)... to God are very different than what we...

Hmmmm... <smile> Well, I'm not disputing that, per se, but I might be somewhat interested in what you think the justification for such an assertion would be. As far as I know, the word "thousand" only appears a couple of times in Genesis, and neither one has anything to do with years. Maybe...

Yes, I agree but only to this point of what you said. I wholeheartedly disagree that the thousand years is to be understood in the sense that you understand it. As I have said many times, the thousand years is to be understood in the same context as the cattle on a thousand hills in Psalm...

In your opinion. Okay, fair enough. No, after it is finished. God's millennium is the time period in which this "first resurrection" takes place. It is a one-time event for individuals, certainly, but takes place progressively over the course of the God's millennium. You're conflating about...

No, John calls himself "the disciple whom Jesus loved." John is speaking of himself in John 13:23, 19:26, 20:2, 21:7, and 21:20. Grace and peace to you.

It's neither, I think. 3R is just fully bought in to an errant understanding of these Scriptures we're talking about. He obviously knows Scripture at least fairly well, and he's not "deliberately disseminating misinformation," which would be lying. He's just mistaken. I don't mean to...

Sure. And that's unfortunate for several reasons. Sure it does; the bringing of God's Israel to completion and Jesus's subsequent return. Not a specific (or even implied) date, but a time of completion, for sure. As Jesus said, "concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the...

Ohhhhh... boy. <smile> No, God's millennium, this present age, will come to a close when His Israel is complete. Then Jesus will return, and in short order will win the final victory, execute the final Judgment, and finally usher in the Kingdom in its fullness... and earth and heaven will be...

No, not in the slightest. And you think these are...? I mean, I do agree that there are multiple datable events described throughout Revelation... and multiple iterations of those events... <smile> And at the end of the age, when God's Israel is complete, Jesus will return and bring them all...

Just the fact that John prophesied Christ's return ~ seven times over, by the way ~ in Revelation, in his relating to us the very visions Christ Himself gave him in about 95 A.D. should be enough. John was imprisoned on Patmos as an old man (probably in his 80s or perhaps early 90s) when he...

Yes, but not every one of them were used in the same context. Which I affirmed, as opposed to denying. However, assuming you are a follower of Christ as I am, then He was speaking of us also. What he was saying there did not just have an immediate context. Certainly, it had that, but much...

Disagree. "This generation" can be understood there in Matthew 24 in two different senses, in the present generation (which is strictly the sense you are seeing that in) and in a future generation. I submit to you that it is to be understood in both senses, but applied differently... it is...

Well, he said, "this is the last hour," right? Well, also "it is the last hour," in other English translations, but there is no difference. The "this" and the "it is" there... <smile> ...clearly indicates that he was speaking of the present time in that day... and is also prescient to us today...

Yeeeeeeah, right back atcha. And we'll leave it at that. You do. What I don't like is watching people flail away in futility trying to make something stick ~ which itself is terribly disingenuous. Right, because I don't. Your opinion, however erroneous, is... noted. <smile> Grace and...