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I say that what you are talking about, David... A and B... are two very, very different things. Revelation 6:11 in particular says, "Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were...

Literally what I just said... Right, so it seems you're saying ~ without realizing it, I guess ~ that there's an intermediate age of some length between this age and the next. And I say the text does not support that. <chuckles> I... don't think that's it... <smile> Yes. Agreed. <smile>...

Fair enough; see my post immediately preceding this one (#277). Nope. He returns, and ends it, yes... really in a sense before it even begins. You will agree that the text says Satan is loosed again, but never actually says he succeeds in deceiving the nations. Disagree. See above. The...

This seems to be where we don't see eye to eye; these two things are one and the same. The key word, I guess, in your statement here is 'entire,' but in the text, the word 'until' necessitates the entirety, that the "thousand years" is necessarily expired when the loosing occurs. Of course you...

You just said, Spiritual Israelite, and I am quoting you here, verbatim, "I certainly don't see anything in Revelation 20 which suggests that he is loosed in the eternal age to come." Fair enough. On this we agree. As I said, I don't see it as any significant amount of time, no. Here's my...

:rolleyes: Lol... Whatever... <smile> The wording that was confusing in your quote in Post #241 was ~ and still is, really ~ "from the first." But yes, of that entire passage, 'anothen' is only used in verse 3, and you at least seemed to intimate that 'anothen' appeared also in verses 6 and 8...

The text clearly states that he is loosed when the thousand years are ended... "that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended." If you disagree, that's fine. Right on. Fair enough, but I don't understand how you can't understand how I'm "interpreting"...

On this little subject under discussion between us, it seems the only question, then, is, is the time in which Satan is loosed at the very end of but in the present age, or is it the beginning of the coming age? I think it not important that we come to agreement on that, not a terribly pressing...

It seems so, yes. It's okay, but yes. I try, David. I really do. Thanks for acknowledging. I'm......... not so sure he doesn't; I think there's a couple of other, ah, issues that present with him... But one thing that's sorely lacking across the board here is humility. Which is not...

God sent Jesus to the cross to save His sheep, the ones God gave Him, which are fewer that all of humanity. <eye roll> <eye roll> <eye roll> ...when people are blinded in their Arminianism. Grace and peace to you.

Don't think David was suggesting Catholics created the Trinity doctrine... And with regard to the millennium of Revelation 20, amillennialism long precedes Catholicism. There is written evidence that amillennialism was around in the first century, which puts it at most within 30 to 40 years of...

Certainly, but He also said to His disciples (all of us) that we did not choose Him, but he chose us and appointed us that we should go and bear fruit and that our fruit should abide, so that whatever we ask the Father in His name, He may give it to us... (John 15:16). Grace and peace to you...

Hmmm... So, this is interesting conversation and shouldn't be any kind of argument between us... <smile> I would submit that what Jesus is saying there is not even particularly about marriage, but that all personal relationships in eternity will be even far beyond the deepest loving...

Of Christians, Paul says "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience ~ among whom we all once lived in the passions of our...

Fair enough. Right, so thus my... well, not "dismissal" of it, but yeah, we're not going to see eye to eye, which you and I both know. Right, there's a definite disconnect between the two. So even this question is... well, loaded, really. There's a false assumption built into it...

Actually, I think there are some posters here who are... But whatever... No, that's only what some people believe regarding "Amils," and that's because there is such disagreement regarding both what it means for Satan to be bound and (maybe more so) what "deceiving the nations" really is. If...

Can a person be imprisoned in a maximum-security prison and still have influence on the outside? Well yeah, absolutely. Satan is absolutely, though ~ since Jesus's life, crucifixion, and resurrection, and especially Pentecost ~ unable to deceive the nations, which would be to prevent the spead...

Right, our being born again... "when we were dead in our trespasses, made alive together with Christ and raised up with Him and thus seated with Him in the heavenly places," (Ephesians 2), yes... And they're not; Satan's little season is after the thousand years, God's millennium, the full time...

In your... humble <smile> ...opinion. Yeah, ummm... noted. Grace and peace, Zao!

It can. But stubbornly it cannot... <smile> ...or will not. Maybe David will respond; I'd like to hear from him on it. But if he doesn't... <shrug> Grace and peace to you.