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Of course we do. <smile> Just on the human will, David, for any person, his or her will, free as it is, is to do either his or her father's (the devil's) will or ~ if he or she has been born again of the Spirit ~ to do his or her Father's (God's) will. And this is because of the state of his...

Jesus is the Word, Spiritual Israelite, as you know. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:1,14). And...

Right, but still, there is a "right," and there is a multitude of "wrongs." <smile> Still, it's a discussion ~ and debate, if healthy ~ worth having... even through the whole millennium. <smile> <chuckles> At the end of the millennium, all will be resolved. After the final Judgment, maybe...

If you, as I am, are a Gentile, David, and a believer in Christ, a Christian, then you yourself along with me and all other Gentile Christians past and present are proof that we are in the millennium right now. That's of course not to exclude Jewish believers/Christians, as we are all in...

Yes, I'm well aware. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Sure they do. But it is very possible to be both sensible (for many reasons) and wrong at the same time. <smile> Well, If God gives this assurance, then it's every bit as plain and... sensible... as believing one actually has a nose on his/her face. <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Interesting... "Derived"... Well, not true according to the Book we do have: "what can be known about God is plain to (all), because God has shown it to (us)... His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the...

I understand your position. Ah yes, the lake of fire... Like I said, all these conversations come around to the same things. Again, our God is a consuming fire (Deuteronomy 9:3; Hebrews 12:29). Grace and peace to you.

<chuckles> We disagree, respectfully. I know very well from where Jesus was quoting and to what He was referring in the Old Testament. I would submit that He was using these as pictures... images... visual aids... of far greater, real realities, if you will, much like His "but I tell you"...

Funny how all these conversations end up in the same place, even if they were far from that at the beginning... To the OP, yes, hell is a place of eternal torment, but people have different ideas about that torment... what it is, who administers or inflicts it and how... Many even turn it...

Well, at least you acknowledge this as your opinion... <smile> But hold on... I actually agree with you here, David, at least to an extent... There is a key difference (which others may not see as key at all...) in the "little season" of Revelation 6 that differentiates it from "Satan's...

No, you were ignoring the context, and now you're misstating it. And, if you want to call that my opinion, that's fine with me. Grace and peace to you.

I was right with you this far... <smile> Grace and peace to you.

Ah, but "literally small" to us? Sometimes yes... Or "literally small" to God but not "literally small" to us? Sometimes yes... <smile> So, it depends on the context... Disagree, but okay, fair enough... What I would say, SI, is that "a short amount of time" is understood very differently...

There was. And you either ignored it (don't think so) or declined to answer it (nodding), but either way spoke volumes. That's all you. But we'll agree to disagree. Yeah, so why didn't you answer my question? I clearly, in no uncertain terms, asked what version of the Bible you were quoting...

Okay, we'll leave it at that, then. Ah yes, hurdles... Well yeah, that's the problem, I agree, but I think in a different sense than you do... <smile> I think there's plenty of precedent for both... in the Bible, and in our lives... <chuckles> Those hurdles you see, David, are actually...

You didn't answer my question. More on that in a moment. First, though, yes, it is true that identical words can have different meanings in the Bible depending on the context in which they appear, and yes, 'anothen' is one of those. But we cannot take it out of one context and put it into...

Well, you can, but I would advise against it. <smile> Maybe, but how much of it can be applied to Satan would probably be... yet another debate... <smile> David, at that point, there's no one left that will be deceived. Of course I don't... <smile> And I don't... <smile> The text reads...

Did I not say to David, "...your A is in the millennium of Revelation 20, and your B, Satan's 'little while' is after it is ended"...? I guess I could have left out that little word 'in' in there... And you and I are both amillennial, right? <smile> Grace and peace to you, SI.

Because what you have said, that "Satan's little season" ~ which commences when Satan is loosed ~ is within the thousand years, is contrary to that. Ahhh, yes, I know. <smile> "And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will...