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  1. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    The Scriptures says that Christians (only Christians) will be changed at the first resurrection: 1 Corinthians 15:50-53 (WEB): (50) Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood can’t inherit God’s Kingdom; neither does the perishable inherit imperishable. (51) Behold, I tell you a mystery...
  2. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    There would have to be a judgement/decision to decide which animals would be changed to spirit beings and go to heaven, and which would be resurrected as physical beings again and live on the earth. There is no mention of it in the Bible, so there is no reason to believe God will do it. If...
  3. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    Angels will be judged. 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (WEB): (2) Don’t you know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? (3) Don’t you know that we will judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? Don't...
  4. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    The Bible never mentions a resurrection for animals, it only promises a resurrection for humans. Even if God did resurrect animals, He would not give them spiritual bodies and a home in heaven so that they could be with Christians, and some animals physical bodies again so that they could be...
  5. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    That is not a list of seven spirits of God. Isaiah 11:2 (WEB): (2) Yahweh’s Spirit will rest on him: the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Yahweh. It says that God's spirit will give him (the Messiah - the Holy...
  6. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    That's not in agreement with the Scriptures, which says that the whole Church, the whole body of Christ, are resurrected as spirit beings or changed to a spirit being (if still alive) at more or less the same time, and then the whole church at the same time are caught up to be with Jesus who...
  7. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    Careful, you might be spreading more confusion there! Some people might interpret what you wrote as God is not "three persons in one" but is "nine persons in one" (God, Jesus and seven spirits)! (Although, of course, God is one person only - "You believe that God is one. You do well. The...
  8. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    Why are you quoting from the NWT just for me? I am not a Jehovah's Witness! The Hebrew word translated in verse 21 as spirit is ruach, not the word nephesh that was used in all the Old testament verses referred to in my previous post.
  9. keithr

    SALVATION OF ANIMALS

    Bible translations can be confusing when they translate the same word to multiple different meanings.:IDK: God brought Adam, and all the animals, to life by causing them to start breathing. Thus Adam became a living soul once he had started breathing and his lifeless body started functioning...
  10. keithr

    Did Jesus die the Second Death?

    It's because we all die (first death) as a penalty for our sins that Jesus sacrificed his life for us - to pay for us the penalty for those sins. We are therefore redeemed (our right/privilege to life bought back) and so we will be resurrected to life again. During the Millennial reign of...
  11. keithr

    Did Jesus die the Second Death?

    No Jesus did not die "the second death". We all die, then, because of Jesus' redeeming sacrifice, we will all be resurrected and afterwards be judged whether or not we are worthy of eternal life (Hebrews 9:27, as you quoted). Those that are judged unworthy will not have eternal life, they will...
  12. keithr

    If Jesus didn’t know the hour doesn’t that mean that he isn’t god?

    Yes it does. You cannot be almighty God if there is someone greater than you. But you are not your father. Likewise Jesus was/is not his father - his father is almighty God. Jesus prayed to God, saying, John 17 (WEB): (1) Jesus said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said...
  13. keithr

    If Jesus didn’t know the hour doesn’t that mean that he isn’t god?

    It's quite simple - your assumption is wrong, Jesus was/is not God! The evidence for this in the Bible is in plain sight: 1 Timothy 2:5 (WEB): (5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Corinthians 8:6 (WEB): (6) yet to us there is one God, the...
  14. keithr

    Did all the different races and ethnicities come from Adam and Eve?

    Why do you think it was 15,000 years ago? According to Bible chronolgy (such as Genesis 5, which gives the genealogy of Adam to Noah) Adam was created about 6,000 years ago (4004 BC).
  15. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    That doesn't surprise me! Such sweeping statements and assumptions! I do not worship a tiny, ineffectual God, nor do I live in fear of demons. His short article is full of errors right from the start! He says: The inhabitants of Sheol are not called “souls” or “spirits” in the Old Testament...
  16. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    I agree. We can't keep track of time when we are unconscious or asleep. If the "person" ceases to exist, because he/she has disintegrated back to dust, then it is obvious that a re-created human is not the same person (unless there is a non-physical part which survives and is placed in the...
  17. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    This is a Bible study forum, so the conversation should be Bible based. There's no point continuing the conversation if you're not basing your beliefs on what God's word to us says. Having an encounter with spirit beings, be it angels, Jesus, God or demons, is a very convincing experience, so...
  18. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    You should believe the Bible. God forbade consulting of mediums for a reason. Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (WEB): (10) There shall not be found with you anyone who makes his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a...
  19. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    A Targum is not the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible). The Targum is an Aramaic paraphrase/explanation/interpretation of the Hebrew text of the Jewish Scriptures provided by the rabbis in the course of teaching. These paraphrases or explanations were not meant to carry equal authority with the Word of God...
  20. keithr

    When a believer dies, will he be with God as a sentient being right away?

    I am merely trying to understand what the Scriptures say about our death and resurrection. I'm not saying anything that conflicts with the Scripture, as far as I am aware. You are assuming that nothing remains of us after we have died and that God relies on His memory to recreate us in the...