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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Only as we abide in the Vine do we partake of its life-giving sap (blood). We have nothing of our own....without Him we can do nothing. To my understanding His Body on earth is "a kingdom" of priests. Only one kingdom. But men want to be kings and are seen building their own little...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    "Signs" as in signposts, as in navigation for travel, and to mark the seasons? Because the stars are reliable and predictable and their courses (ways) are unchanging? That sounds like He who created them, He who changes not, who we look to for guidance and navigation through life and that...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I dont' fear Astrology, but I do fear the Lord. He may have used the stars to speak to fallen man a long time ago but it is not the means He uses today. If we keep trying to consume what has passed its expiry date, it will be rotten and decayed. Like the manna that the Lord commanded the...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    There seems to more than one rabbit hole here......I would like to try and parse them all one by one, but I just dont have the stamina right now.. Maybe I can just comment on this for now: << King Satan's KINGDOM has many lessor KINGDOMS in it. And the devil offered them to Jesus in the...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Very interesting stuff and I appreciate you sharing it. Well, what may be known of God is written in creation, which includes the stars. Astrology takes it too far though, and doesn't glorify God.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    In answer to your question, I believe it has both been defeated and put under the feet of Christ, but also that we do not yet "see" all thing put under His feet, according to 1 Cor 15. Satan is prince of this world, so his kingdom is this fallen world and we see that it is still divided against...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    That is so wonderful, makes me worship the Lord. It's so lovely and faithful of the Lord that He remembered Abraham's other sons/descendants so many centuries later to guide them them to the Messiah when He was born. Guessing that Abraham would have told those sons all about the promises God...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    It might even BE the mark of the beast. It's a spirit.......but we who have received Christ are marked in Him by HIS Spirit.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I agree... but it is a pattern in scripture of God's ways....for example, the Israelites were told by God to wait until the iniquity of the Canaanites had come to the full (or words to that effect) before destroying them. Mystery Babylon is another example......she filled up the cup of wrath to...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I believe the unity meant transgression had come to the full.....it became ripe for a harvest of judgment...it had filled up the cup of wrath. And it meant it was ruling the whole planet and human race and gave them so much power that the Lord wasn't going to allow....because though He will...
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    Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

    I believe Christians may "work" in government, but that is not them "ministering"...that is just them doing their jobs and earning a living, hopefully lawfully and justly. I think we know a Christian policeman for example, who shoots a fleeing dangerous criminal is not "ministering". (And...
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    Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

    Under the old covenant which was still in effect at that time, adverse circumstances were assumed to always be curses due to personal or familial sins. There wasn't much mercy to be had under the Law, until the new covenant. Jesus going around healing the sick and casting out demons and...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    It rings true to me as being the main reason, with mankind being unified in it at the time (transgression come to the full..?...which triggered God's judgment). Astrology is very ancient eastern mystic idolatry which God soundly condemns all over the bible...it's of the devil. Seems like that...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    lol, very true brother, a wolf can never become vegetarian any more than a leopard can change his spots.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Wow, didn't know that. (Not surprising, there is a lot I don't know). Worship of the heavenly bodies, which is idolatry. Thanks for sharing that...it helps to flesh out why it angered the Lord so much.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Jesus said we are not to judge/condemn. Carnal weapons are the legitimate weapons of the governments of this world, if they use them justly. They are not the weapons of the church. We need to distinguish between the holy and the profane/common. Church is to be holy, governments are common, a...
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    Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

    He was disciplining and rebuking His own people in His own Father's house for desecrating/polluting it, not people of the world. The Father's house is to be house of prayer, not a house of merchandise. And I believe His actions foreshadowed His wrath that was to come a bit later in 70AD. And...
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    Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

    That passage of scripture is talking about governments of this world.........not the church.
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Amen, and the way to escape that mess is to be like Lot and put our hand in God's hand and set our course for the mountains with Him, moving on up to higher ground. I remember the Lord's warning and admonishment to me early one morning, not be like Lot's wife who looked back to watch Sodom's...
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    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Amen. It's a direct and very deceitful counterfeit of the real genuine things of God. False spirit, false love, false unity etc that is born of the filthy rags of man's own "righteousness" instead of submitting to the true righteousness of God in Christ. The way that seemeth right to man but...