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  1. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    i did about a million times. You most likely poo pooed em like the following ones. Matt 25 .10 virgins mat 24. The 2 vivid comings. The last supper dialogue The 2 escape verses. The CONTEXT of the pretrib rapture verses of peacetime and normal life of activities and commerce. ( that alone...
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Exactly Rev 20 has no resurrection at that time. It is looking back to the facets of the first resurrection. I would add to your post that Jesus is the firstfruits along with the others resurrected and seem in Jerusalem walking around. All of us and saints in the ground participate in the first...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I like the pretrib Rapture depiction Jesus used with Noah. We see Noah entering the ark before the Judgment Came Upon the Earth. We see God shuts the door to the ark exactly like he did a few verses later in the 10 virgin parable he shut the door. the 10 virgin parable of course depicting...
  4. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Exactly my point. You are watching and waiting for the AC. Pretrib is solid bible. Bible is the key. Your post has no bible verses. Your focus is all about form and fuss over somebodys elses form. I go concept vs concept. With anybody. Pretrib rapture is the only position that incorporates the...
  5. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Of all the parables, the 10 virgin parable is the most Vivid of them all. it's like it's impossible to miss. you got all the virgins waiting and watching, laying their life down for the bridegroom. the bridegroom comes and takes only the worthy ones, and he takes them into the wedding...
  6. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Yep Keraz missed the vivid message. SMH
  7. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Yes some is chronological, some is not. What pretrib rapture attackers do is try to make the bible fit their theory. We have solid bible verses that you NEED to omit. That is the difference.
  8. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    You didn't tie anything in. You are just supposing you have a special revelation that we are supposed to agree with. All of that is way too general. God doesn't want us in rabbit trails.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    QUOTE; "If you can't see he comes for them and all the saints at the second and only coming, that's on you". In order for that to get even tiny traction, we need massive omissions. First fruit Jews 144k Jesus with a sickle. It is during the gt. The 144k preceding the main harvest a few...
  10. rebuilder 454

    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Nope The 5 wise went to the marriage chamber. The fathers house. ...as prophesied at the last supper. Beautiful depiction of the pretrib rapture. Vivid and solid bible. Also at the one taken/left, it is normal life, no war or great tribulation in context, and then the bonus of "watch and pray" (...
  11. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Concerninhg "worthy" , you messed that up also. You need to start over friend. You are taking solid bible truths that conflict your doctrine and just slinging stuff against the wall as you are backpedaling trying to inject strange baloney into ; bride, bridegroom, worthy, and 50%Taken. Also note...
  12. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Lol The groom takes the bride into the wedding chamber. 50 % are left behind exactly as Jesus depicted IN CONTEXT A FEW VERSES EARLIER! Only the worthy ones are taken. Again, in context. And you missed it. Wow.
  13. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Omit omit omit. Then act like your doctrine works. Why?
  14. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Lol you leave out the 144k JEWS gathered immediately before that. Funny how you omit anything challenging some made up mess. It is so ironic to place the dead in christ following the 144k, ( what you just did) and then pretending to teach me some impossible scenario. Go learn that the rapture...
  15. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    That omission mode if you guys is your cornerstone. Leave out the FACT that the "one taken" prophecy of Jesus has those "taken" in normal " non gt" living. Psssst...that makes your deal impossible. But it gets even worse. You LEFT OUT (as every postribber must do) the next verse to watch and be...
  16. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    You responded twice on my rev 14 challenge. But never addressed any substance. In fact , nothing but "guidance" and warnings using your failure to reconcile verses that challenge a poorly thought out doctrine of assumptions.
  17. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Mat 25 the virgins parable. Read it and realize judgement came AFTERWARDS. It is so vivid. Impossible to miss
  18. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Just see the others as metaphors. He really does not come on a cloud and harvest his people in rev 14. And lot was some spiritual deal where we really go through the fires of sodom and AFTER the fire and judgement God comes and removes us.
  19. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    Nope As I told you, the entire world takes the mark. You take it or die. All those left behind deal with the AC. Been sayin that for over 30 years. He kills all the saints. They are seen as martyrs in the "innumerable number", in heaven early on in the trib. All rapture verses are normal life...
  20. rebuilder 454

    It Must Be Absolutely Terrifying To Be A Post-Tribulation Believer

    What part of "before the flood " do you not comprehend. What part of Lot delivered prejudgement do you not comprehend? Mat 24 (you know, the other verses that you will NEVER hear from postribbers) 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving...