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unpack rev 14. That is such an easy request.

Nope A little after the main harvest of jews by Jesus with a sickle in rev 14 is the harvest to destruction . A prewrath harvest that CAN NOT be the pretrib rapture or the postwrath coming on white horses. IOW ,You need to change most every component of rev 14 to make it work with your...

All sides of the debate embrace that. The 3 comings are eternally canonized in the word of God. That kills all but pretrib rapture.

I have scripture. Your declaration of rev 14 can not be true. A simple read without CHANGES becomes your thorn. Unpack it. Show me

I have yet to see a postribber unpack rev 14. They change components. Change verses. Rev 14 destroys completely all positions except pretrib rapture. Rev 14 The eschatological nuke.

Could a postribber unpack and reconcile the prejudgement removal of Lot? The prejudgement dynamic of Noah? The prejudgement removal to egypt of Jesus? None of them removed postrib.

Only the worthy ones are taken in the rapture. We see this vividly Illustrated and declared in Matthew 25, in another gospel, and in Revelation the seven letters to the seven churches. So we see this in Scripture confirmed three different places. The Rapture, those taken, is the bride of Christ...

If you make the gt into ANYTHING but JACOBS TROUBLE...you will never see Gods purpose. The gt is the time of gentiles completed and the time or harvest of the Jews begining.

Like i said, you have to embrace scripture and you have to embrace context, so you see that the 144,000 at the start of the chapter are in heaven they have been harvested the Bible says they are first fruits there's a reason why they are first fruits if you look at their description, they...

Both sides of the debate embrace that.

you have to reconcile scripture. Jesus told his disciples , " not a hair on your heads shall be harmed" All of them but John died being murdered violently by satan IOW verses do not void out other verses. I have never seen a postribber reconcile verses. Never. If Honesty is removed, who is...

Read Revelation 14 Jesus comes with a sickle in his hand sitting on a cloud , never touches earth, and that is A rapture right before the wrath of God so the second coming on white horses and the Rapture of the Dead in Christ is not Revelation 14 so there are three comings right there the...

The bible says every man, woman, and child takes the mark. To refuse is to die. The rapture only fits pretrib.

Jesus said "pray that you may be counted worthy to escape the things about to come upon the Earth and to stand before the son of man" post trib rapture adherents pray that?....nope. In their minds, Jesus was mistaken.

I keep hearing that mess about secret rapture. But only from postribbers projecting it onto other postribbers. Very strange. But keeps them smiling over more made up talking points.

Most of us know the postrib talking points. Also know the postribbers omissions. Yawn

are you referring to the gathering in rev 14? If so, that is not the rapture of the church

Nope It clearly says all take the mark. There is no running from cave to cave to escape the AC. All believers are martyred.

Personal attacker. How juvenile

Still pretending the pretrib rapture verses don't exist. Carry on