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yep take the mark or die. psssst...that means nobody to rapture postrib or postwrath. only pretrib rapture fits

IOW you both agree to omit the 3 comings. SMH

It says ALL TAKE THE MARK. So, you miss the rapture, you die or take the mark.

Your doctrine needs Lot, Noah, and the baby Jesus taken away post judgement. TOTALLY ERRONEOUS. Jesus framed the rapture prejudgement. Solid bible fact. In fact every rapture verse is normal life and economy. Your postjudgent model is EXACTLY OPPOSITE. Then in your supposed model, you have a...

go into rev 14. It is crystal clear. A gathering prewrath of messianic Jews.

No postribbers will engage on rev 14. Uh huh

Amen. I am also a pretribber as the Jesus declared.

You said absolutely nothing about the bible including rev 14. All we see is your general opinion about your loathing of the body of Christ that differ from you.

rev 14 is a gathering prewrath that is not the rapture of the church. Only pretrib rapture fits Bring on scripture. Reconcile a gathering mid trib.

You have to be more specific. I'm not sure what you're asking of me. If we look at revelation 14 exactly how it is written, it is the messianic first fruit Jews taken to heaven. The timing is right before the wrath, (which I would say is about mid tribulation, or about halfway through the...

uh, maybe point out you understanding of it???? Your incorporation of rom 11 is a bit off the subject.

....you ever contribute anything of substance? You asked for verses. I responded. You ever respond maturely to anything? You seem to be in here to mock and name call anyone disagreeing with you.

???? makes no sense. You asked for verses then ATTEMPT to void Gods word with generalities and assumptions.

All sides of the debate believe all that. You are trying to generalize away scripture. It is called "condemnation before investigation"

"Rapture" is "gathering". Don't let cliches' sway you.

Nope Not true. I can declare it in my sleep. So simple. Rev 14 is not the pretrib rapture. I was unpacking rev 14 around 6 years ago. You can listen to older vids on eschatology. NOBODY saw rev 14. Rev 14 is the irrefutable authentication of a pretrib rapture because ALL OTHER positions can NOT...

Bonus ; In the grain harvest it is 3 parts. Firstfruits Main Corners and gleaners (stragglers) Illustrating the 3 gatherings. No postribber can unpack the illustration of "harvest". We own it. Glory to God!

Correct 3 harvests. 2 are not the church. Solid bible 3 comings. Only the last one is to the earth. The first 2 are done from the air/clouds. There is much scripture to authenticate that.

Rev 14...gathering by Jesus with a sickle 1 thes 4 ....gathering of resurrected dead in Christ PRECEDE THE living of REV 14. REV 19...post wrath coming on white horses blackening the sky. All eternally declared by the word of God.