Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Butch5

    Hell is for children

    Hi Josho, There's some confusion in translations. The place of weeping and gnashing of teeth is Gehenna and Hades is the grave. The problem is that in some translations both are translated hell
  2. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Hi ewq1938, It's not because I've decided something and have to fit in. It's because I've studied this subject deeply. Lets start at the very beginning. To say that the rich man and Lazarus is a true story presupposes that it is possible for the dead to be alive and conscious. However, that...
  3. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    You're welcome! I've elaborated on it in post 189. I've studied this subject in depth for almost two years now and have looked at many, many, passages of Scripture
  4. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Yeah, his point is that they all experienced the same thing.
  5. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    That's an argument from silence, it's not valid. Just because He didn't say, "hear this parable" doesn't mean it's an actual event.
  6. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Actually, it is parable. 14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him. 15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight...
  7. Butch5

    Hell is for children

    I think he's referring to the modern concept of hell. If that's the case he is correct. There are three different Greek words that were translated hell, Gehenna, Hades, and Tartarus. This causes much confusion.
  8. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    I agree, it is a parable. What many miss is that Jesus was talking to the Pharisees, not his disciples.The Scriptures say that He didn't speak to them except in parables. There is a point to His story, He is condemning them but they don't see it.
  9. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    I think Paul's point with that passage is stressing unity. They all have the same Lord, same baptism, etc.
  10. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Hey, all the links are the same article
  11. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Oz, My comment was directed at a particular statement with a particular intent. I was not making a declarative statement to the general public. However, since you've brought it up I can gladly list doctrines that modern churches have wrong. Your church doesn't have any errors? I'd beg to...
  12. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Oz, I asked so I would know the belief of the person that I am discussion it with. I have heard different definitions of this doctrine from different people. So, in order to avoid confusion or assumptions I ask each person to tell me how they understand the doctrine. I will take it from this...
  13. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Hi Oz, No, they're dead. I can easily address and explain these passages. They don't teach that the dead are somehow alive. If we study the historical setting and background of the NT and the early church was can see where this idea came from. I don't have time at the moment to address this but...
  14. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Oz, I'll have to disagree with you and would be more than happy to address the subject. At the moment I don't have time to read the articles, maybe this afternoon I'll have time. However, I did open the first link and found the fallacy of " Poisoning the Well" in the first paragraph. Again, I...
  15. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Are you aware of the difference between being filled with the Spirit and the Spirit indwelling one?
  16. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You presented 3 articles to support you claim. All three are erroneous, what else do you want me to prove?
  17. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    He posts these passages and says that Jesus was filled with the Spirit from the womb. None of these passages speak of Jesus. Luke 1:15, “For he will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother’s...
  18. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Actually, I've looked at the website and read several of his articles. His articles typically are flawed. I could easily show you the fallacies if you are interested.
  19. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    His arguments are not logically sound.