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  1. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Jesus had the same body that went into the grave. Likewise believers will have the same body that goes into the grave. Read Ezekiel chapter 37 It's speaking of Israel's resurrection. Besides John said, Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know...
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    Donald Trumpy

    What astounds me is the energy Christians put into the politics of a foreign land.
  3. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    It's not a different body. Its the same body resurrected. Thats why its called the resurrection. Jesus came out of the tomb in the body He had before the cross. He even showed the disciples His hands and feet. They say the marks from the nails. Christians will also raise in the same body...
  4. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    What do angels have to do with this?
  5. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Christians need human reasoning so that they can determine that the passage about the Comforter teaching all things was a statement that was directed to the Apostles not all Christians.
  6. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    No, no one goes to Heaven, it's simply not found in the Bible. Also there is no inner man. That is a figurative usage of language. Man is a flesh being and when he dies God's breath returns to Him and the man returns to the dust just as the Scriptures say. Also, you don't get a different body...
  7. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Are you aware that these isn't a single passage of Scripture that says people go to Heaven when they die?
  8. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    I put my replies in red as the system won't let me post BB code at the moment.
  9. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    It is because I support myself using scripture you just use your own logic and opinions. Really? I've given you both Scripture and logic. However, if you can show that passages that says a man that dies is alive I'm all ears I have admitted it. I also explained it. Your argument has been that...
  10. Butch5

    Was Jesus taste of death fair to the eternally damned?

    Really? Repeating my statement is mature? This is mind boggling. I give you an argument based in Scripture and it's weak yet you give me an argument that is completely fabricates without any Scriptural support. Give one passage of Scripture that discussed spiritual death. [qutoe]Yes I have...
  11. Butch5

    Was Jesus taste of death fair to the eternally damned?

    If I had only give that as a single source you might have an argument. However, I also showed that it was an early Christian understanding also.
  12. Butch5

    Was Jesus taste of death fair to the eternally damned?

    You know, I really expected more from someone your age. And to just repeat what I said is rather childish. I've given you a perfectly good explanation of the statement to Adam in post 5 above. On the other hand you've not given me anything in Scripture explaining how someone can die a non...
  13. Butch5

    The Spirit Of Faith

    Well, Paul wrote to the Christians in the Roman church that there is none righteous. I don't see how he could say that if believers are righteous.
  14. Butch5

    The Spirit Of Faith

    I think you're misunderstanding the phrase "The righteousness of God"
  15. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    That's not really relevant as it's a transnational decision. The Greek texts that I checked all had "ὅραμα" which means a vision. However, we don't need to speculate because Peter explained it. He said he saw the power and coming of the Lord. Obviously the second coming hadn't occurred since...
  16. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    It's not opinion. Anyone who know how to reason can see that you're drawing inferences and not dealing with clear statements from Scripture. I tell you what a man is and post Scripture explaining what a man is. You post Scripture and infer from it. You say Adam died non physically and post a...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    This is a fallacious appeal to authority. You don't know that any Scholar understands anything correctly unless you understand it correctly. That means "without" contradicitons. I know you aren't a Greek scholar because you aren't understanding the Greek wording. This too is fallacious and an...
  18. Butch5

    Was Jesus taste of death fair to the eternally damned?

    The passage says nothing about a non-physical death, again you are inferring that and imposing it on the passage. There is "Nothing" in Scripture that teaches spiritual death. I already supplied an understanding of that passage that makes sense, is the historical understanding of both the Jews...
  19. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    No, you've provided inferences. Nothing you provided lays out the process of how man can be alive when he dies. You've provided the passage about the transfiguration. The passage says nothing about how a man is able to live after he dies. You've simply inferred that he can because the passage...
  20. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Quoting a Greek scholar has no bearing on how the Scriptures use words. I'll bet you don't know anything about that Greek scholar other than he wrote a book. People post commentaries and dictionary definitions as if they are Scriptures. They're not they're the woks of fallible men. You don't...