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  1. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    I agree that people who live their lives looking to Christ as their truth they live by both toward God and men, with the result that they are filled with Christ, and they are empowered to behave like Christ for His glory, in love and righteousness, will be raised to life on the last day, and I...
  2. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    No, from the context, the issue is they don't do the good He teaches. Do you deny that this is the thing Christ objects to inasmuch as He calls them "lawless" in spite of their performance of supernatural works in His Name thinking they are serving Christ--that the issue is "I did not tell you...
  3. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Yes, "oops" : their error is in saying "I have been righteous in the past, therefore, I can turn from righteousness and do evil and get away with it", but God heads them off at the pass, warning them that He will not remember that past righteousness they are depending on to justify them while...
  4. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Nope, that's not the issue at stake. The issue at stake is they think that being pleasing to God consists in doing supernatural works, not in being LAWFUL, DOING THE WILL OF THE FATHER, WHICH IS FOLLOWING RIGHTEOUS BEHAVIOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS TEACHINGS. That's the "proper" way to conclude...
  5. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    These are terms I didn't think I'd see on a Bible discussion forum.
  6. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    1. Yet you already conceded that Abraham was justified AFTER he believed because of his works that completed his faith, which happened later on after he believed. How was he "justified" AFTER he believed if justification is a one-time event, and there is no ongoing assessment/judgment? 2. Is...
  7. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Same as happens in Matthew 18 with the parable of the unforgiving steward--he did not love as he was loved, did not forgive as he was forgiven, thus, his faith counted as righteousness, not being completed by works, goes away and his debt (which had been forgiven as a consequence of his faith Ro...
  8. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Oops, God can forget righteousness (Ez 18:24), so He can validly say "I never knew you" to people who don't ENDURE (Hebrews 3, 10) in the faith, because "faith is completed by works" (Ja 2), yet their lawless works did not accord with faith, thus, having not tested themselves to see if they were...
  9. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Where does it say they were trusting in their works? It says they were "lawless", saying, "Lord, Lord", but not DOING what was righteous (since they are lawless)--and who does Christ accept, when He returns, on that Day of Judgment, except the "lawful", who DO THE GOOD THINGS HE HAS BEEN...
  10. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    It sounds like you agree with me--that there is an ongoing assessment/judgment (otherwise, there couldn't be ongoing justifications) that will culminate on the final Day of Judgment.
  11. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    So, Jesus teaches about a future event that will never occur? In your book, Jesus erred? Not possible. In fact, Jesus teaches the same thing after the Cross. Revelation 22 12“Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done. Paul, wonder of...
  12. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    I clearly said that interpreting Matthew 7 is to be done by interpreting it in its context--and I demonstrated the irresponsibility of citing a single verse from John by showing John has many verses that contradict your abusage of a single sliver of his writing. You agree that Jesus says "Get...
  13. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    John 5:28...those who have DONE good to the resurrection of life, and those who have DONE evil to the resurrection of judgment. John 8:29And he who sent me is with me. He has not left me alone, for I always DO THE THINGS that are pleasing to him. John 12:50 And I know that HIS COMMANDMENT IS...
  14. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    It is not "proper" to conclude what Jesus is teaching in Matthew 7 by jumping over to John 6. You're agreeing with me that good works are necessary for justification on that day, you're just saying "good deeds automatically happen if you really believe", correct?
  15. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    If you want to know what I said, just read what I said : I'm ridiculing your ridiculous approach to the text. In context, He taught a bunch of standards, and He caps it off by saying "Do what I say, don't just emptily call Me 'Lord'--if I'm your Lord, then act like it and obey." As I showed...
  16. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Again, it comes down to HOW, because believing Gentiles who neither have nor know the Law are deemed "doers of the Law" who will be justified. How did they do that? By the old covenant way of the letter, or by the new covenant way of the spirit? The text tells us : "though not having the law...
  17. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    As long as you're not arguing we are as Christians to learn and walk by Torah--your "approach" seems ambiguous.
  18. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    "Let me show you how to understand Matthew 7... it's WAAAAAYYYYYYYY over here, in a completely different book." Lol But, hey, if you want to quote John without having to reconcile John with John, let me do the same : John 5:28...those who have DONE good to the resurrection of life, and those...
  19. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Every orthodox Christian on this forum will affirm the words of Paul, "neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but keeping God's commands;" the point where they will differ is the MEANS whereby that occurs : if God's plan for serving Him in the ew Covenant was "oldness of...
  20. GracePeace

    Not Under Law, But Under Grace

    There is a New Covenant, unlike the one made before--writing not on stone but on peoples' hearts and minds, causing people to do His will by putting His Spirit in them. Maybe this is the connection with Pentecost : traditionally, this was when the "fiery Law" was given at Sinai, but, also, now...