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Since you brought up Revelation 11:15, IMO then, Zechariah 14:9, for example, can't be true until the 7th trumpet sounds first. Yet pretty much all Amils, and maybe even some Premils for all I know, insist Zechariah 14:9 has already been fulfilled. Yet most of these same ones agree that...

For example, unlike some around here that apply the 2300 days recorded in Daniel 8 to that of the days of A4E, I don't. I think it is connected with this subject in the OP. Except like some who might even agree with me that it is connected, I do not take it to be involving a literal brick and...

Obviously, you are not nor am I remotely saying you are. I'm simply trying to show that no matter what Amils do here, they are going to contradict something in the process. If they have the DOTL meaning at the end of satan's little season, this means someone can be saved during his little season...

No, I already fully realize that Amils do not take everyone saved in the millennium to each live and reign the entire thousand years that Amil insist the millennium is symbolizing. Thus the reason for the hypothetical scenario at the end of my post you are addressing. I don't see anything you...

Then you should be able to explain why the legion of demons feared to be sent to the abyss before their time if it is just simply a spiritual state of restraint rather than a literal place of some kind. Were the swine they were cast into and the lake the swine drown in, literal things and a...

Food for thought. If the “thousand years” is the Church Age, how can Satan be released after it when he is clearly active during it?

Don't Amils, such as yourself, realize that the LOF is a prison, for example? You seem to think there is no such thing as a prison that can imprison spirit beings. What about the lost when they die? Are they walking around among us in an unseen state since there is no such thing in another realm...

No one is saying Amil would say that. The point is that Amil has satan bound while nations are still being deceived. That equals that there is no difference between being bound and being loosed if he can deceive nations while he is bound, and can deceive nations while he is loosed. That would be...

If the first resurrection is connected with salvation, and surely it is, the only way Amil can be plausible then, no one can be saved during satan's little season. After all, it is not logical, assuming someone is saved during satan's little season, for them to then live and reign with Christ a...

Come on now, quit pretending here that reality, thus in the real world, does not expose that you are doing that. In the real world, as we speak, nations are still being deceived by satan and that you have satan in the pit at the same time. It doesn't matter per your view that the pit is not...

Still avoiding I see. Not one thing that you said here here even remotely addresses what I brought up in regards to Revelation 20:8 and what their role is during the millennium, billions of them. What's in question, not what these in verse 8 are doing after the millennium, but what are they...

IOW, you can't logically explain these meant in Revelation 20:8 per your view. But you sure make a big fuss about these in verse 8 when it comes to Premil, though. Why is that, when you yourself can't even logically explain these in verse 8 per your view? The question is, what are these billions...

These billions meant in Revelation 20:8, what is their status during the millennium per your view? Are they being deceived during the millennium, or does your view actually agree with John? That none of these in verse 8 are being deceived until satan is loosed from the pit. Revelation 20:7 And...

Let's start with this premise. Initially there is one group, they are all dead. But then some of them are part of the first resurrection, thus some of them are no longer dead, they are alive. This initial group of the dead now looks like this, as of the first resurrection. Some of these are no...

Maybe what is not being considered by Preterists is that Jerusalem is not always meaning in the literal sense every time? I'm not saying Preterists don't know that, thus disagree. I'm saying that in regards to Luke 21:24 and what all that is involving. Then by comparing with Revelation 11 and...

When are Preterists going to convincingly prove that the times of the Gentiles are already fulfilled, and was fulfilled before this generation in question allegedly passed in 70 AD? What some are not factoring in here is this. In order to see something fulfilled in the Discourse does not...

Maybe in your case it's an example of you shall reap what you sow? For example, JWs. I get the impression that you see all JWs like this---are occultists. And because of that you see none of them like this---Christians who love and serve our great God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, And if...

Yes it is saying that. After all, that is what the phrase 'no more' means throughout the book of Revelation. For exaxple. Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown...

I don't feel I'm ignoring anything. The subject is the legion of demons. That's what I was addressing. As to the kings of the earth, they too get cast into the prison obviously, meaning the following in their case---and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them(Revelation 20:14)...

In my Strong's I'm not finding a Hebrew word listed for 'over' in Zechariah 14:9. But it doesn't really matter since verse 9 can't get fulfilled until verse 5 is fulfilled first. Zechariah 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto...